air in space i just seen a bbc newsround report, page 1
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reply posted on 8-8-2006 @ 04:37 PM by backtoreality
Originally posted by MozartSeason
Finally, you are right, there is air in space. But NASA has a multi-billion dollar contract with a space suit manufacturer who altered key evidence to show there was no air in space, thus the space suits were needed for breathing.

I'm sorry, are you saying that there's breathable air in the vaccuum of space?
Please, elaborate an educate.


You read my whole post and that's the only statement you have a problem with?

Hmm, ok...

Yes, there is in fact breathable air in space. It is a little known fact, but astronauts on the International Space Station have been breathing outside air for some time. NASA hooked up some random filter to make it look official, but in fact they have a direct vent to the outside.

This came about because it was not practical to make the astronauts wear bulky spacesuits for months on end. To get around the issue, NASA purchased an "air filtration system" for 42.8 million dollars--from the same company that sells the spacesuits to NASA.

Back in the early days of space exploration, Russia would routinely send dogs and other animals into space. They would eventually die of course, but because their own feces would plug their sinus cavities in the zero-g environment. It had nothing to do with a shortage of environmental breathable air. If only the dogs knew how to open the window to the spaceship, they might be alive today. Zero-g has been proven to extend life expectancy by many powers of ten.


reply posted on 8-8-2006 @ 06:02 PM by kuhl
Originally posted by backtoreality
Originally posted by leejones
about astranorts doing odd jobs on the space staion, and in the report thay showed the part off the space staion it was blowing around like a ballon ? not by the engines.how come we never see any stars in video reports and we onley see parts where the earth is and not a 360 turn ? i smell a news cover up is there air in space
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They do have engines on the space station. They collect natural gas from the astronauts and then convert it into a usable fuel. After 14 years, they would have enough to go to Mars.

You never seen any stars in space because you need special glasses. Because it is so dark, glasses similiar to night vision are necessary in order to see anything except the sun or the moon or the earth. They are also really expensive, so only 1 pair get taken aboard the space shuttle.

The earth in fact is not 360 degrees. It is exactly 248 degrees. This is why the entire earth is never shown in any photograph. Real estate agents have been selling land that does not exist for decades, but their money fuels the global media, which is why you never hear about it on TV.

Finally, you are right, there is air in space. But NASA has a multi-billion dollar contract with a space suit manufacturer who altered key evidence to show there was no air in space, thus the space suits were needed for breathing.


back to reality are you a comedien?You have some great material there


reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 11:23 AM by backtoreality
Originally posted by Langolier
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
See, I thought you were just joking around before... But maybe I was wrong?


Scary, isn't it? On this website you just can't know for sure.

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I'll humor the OP though. If there was breathable air in space you would still want to heat it up before inhaling it. If you need proof of this, then stowaway in the landing gear bay of a 747 and see how cold you get.


I will use this statement to validate my claim. The fact that air is much colder as altitude increases shows that air is in fact more dense in the upper levels of the atmosphere. Dense air implies more air per unit measurement, which actually means it would be easier to breathe in space than it would be standing on the earth.

It is very clear: for the next Space Shuttle launch this month, watch as the astronauts all get suited up to go into space, then take off the suits once they get there. The same goes for re-entry: into their suits and then remove them once they land. It is all a PR scheme to show the "necessity" of the space suits, when in fact they are more cumbersome than necessary.

To use the example of the 747: there is no use for a space suit on a long international flight, correct? Another easily looked over point that confirms there is plenty of breathable air in space. At 35,000ft you are above more than 90% of the Earth's atmosphere; yet, take a deep breath and everything is fine. The air is simply being channeled into the cabin from the outside. Why do you think they mention the cabin is "pressurized"?

Think of this the next time you up into the mountains and hear comments about the "fresh mountain air": It is not just a saying, it truely is.


reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 11:30 AM by cmdrkeenkid
Originally posted by backtoreality
Why do you think they mention the cabin is "pressurized"?


Cabin Pressurization

Get educated!

Anyway, why don't you take a flight in an unpressurized plane. Hell, make it to MI and I'll take you up in one to about 13K feet. I'll go with an oxygen mask, but I'll leave you free to suffer from the effects of hypoxia.

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reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 11:32 AM by Zaphod58
So you mean EVERYONE is in on it, and ALWAYS makes sure to play along so that people get fooled? I mean you always see the military pilots wearing oxygen when they fly, and it WWII they had to develop systems to let them breath after B-17 pilots passed out from flying too high, and U-2 pilots wear space suits because they fly so high. So everyone that has anything to do with a plane is in on it huh? Interesting.

Pressurized air for the cabin comes from the compressor stages in the aircraft's jet engines. Moving through the compressor, the outside air gets very hot as it becomes pressurized. The portion drawn off for the passenger cabin is first cooled by heat exchangers in the engine struts and then, after flowing through ducting in the wing, is further cooled by the main air conditioning units under the floor of the cabin.

The cooled air then flows to a chamber where it is mixed with an approximately equal amount of highly filtered air from the passenger cabin. The combined outside and filtered air is ducted to the cabin and distributed through overhead outlets.

Inside the cabin, the air flows in a circular pattern and exits through floor grilles on either side of the cabin or, on some airplanes, through overhead intakes. The exiting air goes below the cabin floor into the lower lobe of the fuselage. The airflow is continuous and quickly dilutes odors while also maintaining a comfortable cabin temperature.

About half of the air exiting the cabin is immediately exhausted from the airplane through an outflow valve in the lower lobe, which also controls the cabin pressure. The other half is drawn by fans through special filters under the cabin floor, and then is mixed with the outside air coming in from the engine compressors.

These high efficiency filters are similar to those used to keep the air clean in hospitals. Such filters are very effective at trapping microscopic particles as small as bacteria and viruses. It is estimated that between 94 and 99.9 percent of the airborne microbes reaching these filters are captured.

www.boeing.com...

Hmm, seems like engine air is ADDED to the cabin to increase the pressure.


reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 11:41 AM by backtoreality
Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
Cabin Pressurization

Get educated!


First, you are using a source that has the ability to be edited by anyone. I find it much more possible that you yourself altered/created that entry than the entry actually being true.

Secondly, this is what the industry leads us to believe. Do you not find it currious that air at higher altitudes can be cold, while less dense at the same time? Temperature and pressure have a direct relationship (see Boyle's Law). The manufacturers of these "pumps" are making billions I promise you--all to simply let the outside air in. Also consider the engineering of "ram air" systems for automotive applications. At 60mph, the ram air induction allows the air entering the engine to be pressurized, thus creating more horsepower. Imagine this same concept, but at 600mph--this is what is know as "cabin pressurization". It is a direct vent to the outside; no pumps or moving parts needed.
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