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Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
What gives Bush the right to cause such pain as that? What gives him the right?:shk:
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
September 11, 2001..... there is your answer.
The Kuran has been around for centuries. Terrorist activity on this scale has not. Therefore, the Kuran is NOT the reason why the terrorist activity is being done; otherwise, it would not be anything new. Q.E.D.
While it is impossible to definitively ascertain when it was first used, that which we today call terrorism traces its roots back at least some 2,000 years. Moreover, today’s terrorism has, in some respects come full circle, with many of its contemporary practitioners motivated by religious convictions – something which drove many of their earliest predecessors. It has also, in the generally accepted usage of the word, often possessed a political dimension. This has colored much of the discourse surrounding terrorism ‑ a phenomenon which is, according to Paul R. Pillar, ‘a challenge to be managed, not solved.’[ii]
Adherents of other religions also resorted to methods which might today be termed terrorism, such as the Assassins – an 11th century offshoot of a Shia Muslim sect known as the Ismailis. Like the Zealots-Sicari, the Assassins were also given to stabbing their victims (generally politicians or clerics who refused to adopt the purified version of Islam they were forcibly spreading) in broad daylight.[v] The Assassins ‑ whose name gave us the modern term but literally meant ‘hashish-eater’ ‑ a reference to the ritualistic drug-taking they were (perhaps falsely) rumored to indulge in prior to undertaking missions – also used their actions to send a message.[vi] Often, the Assassins’ deeds were carried out at religious sites on holy days – a tactic intended to publicize their cause and incite others to it. Like many religiously inspired terrorists today, they also viewed their deaths on such operations as sacrificial and a guarantor that they would enter paradise.
Originally posted by mikesingh
The two faces of humanity.
I found it profoundly touching seeing the exprssion of the Iraqi.
And expressions speak louder than words.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Anyways, the hunted and the hunter thing...
If we used a civilized manor of rationality and we said no more war, what is to stop the other side from begining a war? .. or is it that you think that is America does not instigate a war, the war won't actually happen... that we some how of such influence over other peoples line of thought?
Lets say we do get rid of war.. infact lets say we fulfill many peoples dreams here on the board and disband the entire US military except the reserves just incase we are attacked (which we can't be because we don't have an army!) - that makes sense right?
Ok, no more army.. but then in the Blakans a surbian uprising begins, and an inflamed hatred against Muslims spreads like wildfire, within weeks a new dictator rises from this uprising and ethnic cleansing is once again released amoung the people.. thousands upon thousands are slaughterd, raped, pillaged, entire cities burned.
Meanwhile with no more American army to keep peace, Pakistan and India go to war, Turky begins a massacre of Kurds and Armenians while in Israel they go to war with nearly all her neighbors.
But we here in America have no army, we don't go to war against Dictators like we used to because it "hurt people" .. so we watch and suddenly people begin thinking "Hey, we are the largest most powerful country in the world, we could do something!" ... but that would hurt something, and America can't go to war because that for some reason according to some is the actual reason attrocities are comited to begin with.
War will never cease, it will never end. We may or may not be "keeping the peace" who knows, 30-40 years from now the Middle East could be a thriving democracy with good education, low unemployment and no more radical Islam, or it could be a dusty wasteland like it is.
Originally posted by Two Steps Forward
Iraqis are angry at the U.S. because of Saddam Hussein, ultimately. After all, we supported him and helped him keep power for many years, just as we supported other tyrants there and elsewhere who were willing to serve our corporations' profits and/or our "national interests."
Originally posted by Elsenorpompom
wheres the proof.... not trying to derail thread.. but wheres the prrof above poster.... there is none.... back to our already scheduled program