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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
All those years they were stocking the stuff and never even tried to use it to eradicate the jews as they always try to say, but they did use it when it came to defending the country. We both know this invasion and attack was not over a kidnapping because they do this kind of thing all the time between the 2 countries.
Hezbollah is not just a ragtag group, they are for all practical purposes an organized army.
Originally posted by bombers8
Things will hopefully change when the peacekeeping force moves in to evict Hezbollah.
Since its withdrawal of occupation forces from southern Lebanon in May 2000, Israel has violated the United Nations-monitored "blue line" on an almost daily basis, according to UN reports. Hizbullah's military doctrine, articulated in the early 1990s, states that it will fire Katyusha rockets into Israel only in response to Israeli attacks on Lebanese civilians or Hizbullah's leadership; this indeed has been the pattern.
In the process of its violations, Israel has terrorized the general population, destroyed private property, and killed numerous civilians. This past February, for instance, 15-year-old shepherd Yusuf Rahil was killed by unprovoked Israeli cross-border fire as he tended his flock in southern Lebanon. Israel has assassinated its enemies in the streets of Lebanese cities and continues to occupy Lebanon's Shebaa Farms area, while refusing to hand over the maps of mine fields that continue to kill and cripple civilians in southern Lebanon more than six years after the war supposedly ended. What peace did Hizbullah shatter?
Originally posted by xmotex
Israel is also saying IDF troops have now moved "two or three" miles into Lebanon - not very impressive considering the forces they're committing to the conflict. It seems to me like their ground campaign is getting bogged down by an unexpected degree of resistance.
Really, despite all the propaganda from all sides involved, it seems clear to me so far this has been a political victory for Hezbollah, and an embarrassment for both Israel and the US. Too bad, because in the long run Hezbollah's acendancy is going to be terrible for Lebanon. Traditionally Lebanon had been one of the few places in the Mideast to openly embrace modernity. Now Hezbollah's brand of Shiia Islamism is likely to gain more influence there.
Originally posted by bombers8
I have to agree with you here. I think everyone is surprised with the degree of success that Hezbollah has enjoyed because of the resistance they have put up. Part of it has to be due to an intelligence failure by Mossad.
I can understand getting bogged down while fighting in the cities, but I don't understand the problem with these entrenched bunkers on the hillsides.
Originally posted by Houtchens
Please read this quote: "All those years they were stocking the stuff and never even tried to use it...."
What exactly does over 1000 unprovoked missle attacks against civilian targets mean to you? This occured after Israel withdrew from occupied land in a "land for peace" deal. What does the attacks from the Gaza strip after withdrawing from that territory in yet another "land for peace" deal mean to you?
It's not like Israel is doing this arbitrarily- If your family had been the ones killed in an unprovoked missle attack, I doubt your views would be the same.
This does not excuse Israel from killing civilians- I am merely trying to shed some light which is not being examined on the subject.