War on Zionism?

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posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 10:45 PM
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United States Funding of Israel

Did you know...

That the United States of America has provided between three and six billion dollars per year to the "state" of Israel since 1948? A total exceeding one trillion dollars. Why?

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...
www.palestinemonitor.org...
www.washington-report.org...
www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net...
www.cjnews.com...

American Deficit - www.npr.org...

Questions to ask

Why should the United States of America continue to fund the "sovereign" nation of Israel given that the American deficit is currently exceeding Eight Trillion dollars? Does this sound like a cause which is in the best interests of the American people? When was the last time you heard these facts publicized in the media?



Z.O.G. (Zionist Occupied Government)

Did you know...

While Jews make up roughly 2% of the population in the United States and 1.2% of the population in Canada, Zionist representation in government and politics is disproportionately higher than any other group of people. Why?
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...
holywar.org...
www.radioislam.org...

Check out these pics
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...


Does the United States continue to fund Israel because there is an over representation of Zionists in the government? Should we favor other nations based on their religious or ethnic presence or in our government? Are American politicians under heavy influence from the Israeli lobby? Possibly enough to vote 410 - 8 in favor of Israel's genocide of Lebanon civilians?


Now considering the first two facts alone, who will the United States be siding with in the upcoming war in the middle east?
Well most certainly the mainstream media would expose this information to the general public, right? Shall we have a look at who owns the media?


Media Monopoly


Did you know...
Again 2% of the population in the United States controls 60% - 70% of what we read in the paper, hear on the radio, and see on the screen? Why?
www.simpletoremember.com...
www.eonline.com...
www.radioislam.org...
www.ompp.mcgill.ca .pdf file
www.radioislam.org...

While we're on the topic of media control let's explore another area in which Zionists dominate. Let's take a look at the kingpins of the porn industry!

www.jewishquarterly.org...

Using common sense we can assume that virtually everything we're exposed to will have Israel's best interests at mind.


Did you know...
It is considered a criminal offense to discuss certain historical events such as the holocaust of World War 2? Many countries actually have laws against holocaust denial. Why?

en.wikipedia.org...
www.ihr.org...
www.savethemales.ca...

Did you know...

It is illegal in the United States to boycott Israeli goods? Why?

www.iamthewitness.com...
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...
www.bis.doc.gov...
ftn.fedex.com...

Learn more about Zionism

www.iamthewitness.com
www.ziopedia.org
www.truthtellers.org
www.ussliberty.org
www.nowarforisrael.com
www.xanga.com/offlimitsinfo

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[edit on 2-8-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 12:22 AM
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www.shmais.com...

OMG ITS A JEW!!! IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!!! EEEVVVVVIIIIIIL JOOOOOOOOS!!!




posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 12:46 AM
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Nice research i hope ppl will take a look at this. you got my wats vote for this.

my opinion on zionist and jews is, zionist uses the isreali jews as a cover. My feeling is they dont care about them they are there to generate conflict and money from military wich is the motto of every zionist, makes trillion of money.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 01:35 AM
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Great Post, should be printed in the major media outlets



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 02:58 AM
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Great research.


The Zionist movement and it's relaionship with America has got to be one of the biggest conspiracies in the world. Especially the Eastern world. The intense, almost crazy nationalism i see coming from some Zionist Jews is almost desturbing, the rascist ideologies, where they considers themselves as some kind of higher being than there arab brothers, i believe has fascist conatations.

It's incredable this circle of violence and repression stemming from mid century. The victims become the oppressors.

I believe it's important to understand that Zionism is also very differant than Judiaism. Just my .02c.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 03:26 AM
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You have voted Monsieur Goy for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

If for nothing else you got my vote for having the cajones to post your research, while you're bound to catch alot of flack from the semitophiles. I have a wealth of info in some of my posts on Zionism for which I have caught my share of flack but it's hard to argue with the facts of the matter with any affirmative defense other than sensationalizing your posts as antisemitic as nygdan just so cleverly illustrated. If I had more time I would post links to some of my threads which you may find of interest, but it's 4am-ish here and I'm off.

Just out of curiosity, who moved your thread to PTS?



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by eagle eye
Nice research i hope ppl will take a look at this. you got my wats vote for this.

my opinion on zionist and jews is, zionist uses the isreali jews as a cover. My feeling is they dont care about them they are there to generate conflict and money from military wich is the motto of every zionist, makes trillion of money.



Yes, Zionist's use anybody they can to further their agenda. People need to realize that most Jews are completely oblivious to what is happening just like the rest of the general public.

30% of America's billionares are Zionists so there's definitely some cash flow!



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by twitchy


You have voted Monsieur Goy for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.

If for nothing else you got my vote for having the cajones to post your research, while you're bound to catch alot of flack from the semitophiles. I have a wealth of info in some of my posts on Zionism for which I have caught my share of flack but it's hard to argue with the facts of the matter with any affirmative defense other than sensationalizing your posts as antisemitic as nygdan just so cleverly illustrated. If I had more time I would post links to some of my threads which you may find of interest, but it's 4am-ish here and I'm off.

Just out of curiosity, who moved your thread to PTS?



Mirthful Me moved the thread explaining it was necessary



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 11:53 AM
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You got my vote also.

This is what needs to be put out there for people to see and read to form an opinion of Israel of their own ... not just nod and say yes to what is shoved down their throats.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
www.shmais.com...

OMG ITS A JEW!!! IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!!! EEEVVVVVIIIIIIL JOOOOOOOOS!!!



Nygdan you are a bad boy,


But I will agree with the thread starter and I going to give him my vote for bringing some facts that probably we all know but sometimes tend to forget because of the propaganda in our nation.

Monsieur Goy you got my vote, god thread.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:00 PM
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Good Job and good topic. It does put some things into perspective.

Id like to know why Israel, a country with a first rate economy, should get more aid from America than poor, shabby countries in Africa who could use the money alot better.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:30 PM
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I have attempted to post on ATS two times now about zionist control of american corporations but alas because they are associated with ''suspect'' movements they have been removed..

Basically it listed the disproportianate amount of Jewish heads of industry compared to other religion believers.

It was posted as a concern as to why we are hearing a biased opinion regarding reporting of this current conflict..

I,m sure we are all aware of constructive propoganda..

ie the reports of patriot missiles intercepting almost all of the scuds being launched by iraq

But in the case of the new terrorist/war criminal ehud olbert ,Jewish censorship of the American media is becoming more blatant and disgusting.

The truth will prevail and those blinded by the censorship will come to see...and believe me.. they will not be happy

[edit on 2-8-2006 by AGENT_T]



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:30 PM
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Thank you all for the comments.

It's good to see a board that actually reads the post and can see how this affects the current events of today.

I feel sick for the families that have loved ones in the military right now. These brave soldiers will likely be shipped off to the middle east to fight for Israel's best interests. Truly disgusting. That is why this message needs to get out to as many people as possible.

I want to add a critical piece to this post, which may also help you understand the Zionist motivations and the twisted thought process which is deeply entrenched in their minds.

These are the dangerous racial supremacist beliefs of the Talmud.

Let's review shall we!


First of all let's point out how the name Balaam was a pseudonym for Jesus in certain parts of the Talmud. This is easily verifiable by reading the online Jewish encyclopedia and searching for "balaam/jesus"

Henceforth he became the type of false prophets seducing men to lewdness and obscene idolatrous practises (Rev. ii. 14; II Peter ii. 15; Jude 11; Abot v.19). The name "Nicolaitanes," given to the Christian heretics "holding the doctrine of Balaam" (Rev. ii. 6, 15), is probably derived from the Grecized form of Balaam, = N???-????, and hence also the pseudonym "Balaam," given to Jesus in Sanh. 106b and Gi?. 57a. See Geiger, "Bileam and Jesus," in "Wissenschaftliche Zeitschrift für Jüdische Theologie," vi. 31-37).

www.jewishencyclopedia.com...



Let's take a look at specific verses from the Talmud. Please don't attempt to explain how these are "taken out of context". That's a load of crap. Killing gentiles and raping three year olds can't be taken out of context my friends.

Please verify these for yourself by checking the Babylonian Talmud online here.
www.comeandhear.com...


Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.



Please visit these other sites for alot more about the racial supremacism of the Talmud.

www.revisionisthistory.org...
www.talmudlies.com...
www.iahushua.com...



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:52 PM
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Here's the thing.

Your initial post brings up relevant facts but their interpretation is up for discussion.

I agree with the facts about financial support of Israel (true and verifiable), AIPAC and other lobby groups' influence in Washington (true and verifiable - though the extent of their influence is up for debate), media monopoly (true and verifiable - thought the existence of a broad agenda involving all of them in a grand conspiracy is debatable), the anti-boycott laws (true and verifiable)...

…BUT...

I agree with having holocaust denial laws, because rewriting history for a racist agenda is unacceptable to anyone with a conscious.

Those issues listed before the "but" can be addressed through political grassroots action and a vibrant democracy.

As for the Talmud I could do the same kind of hatchet job on any book of religion you choose.

So here's a fair warning, if your ultimate goal is some kind of stealth backdoor racist campaign here on ATS, you will be shown the door. Don't come into our living room and crap on our carpet.

This site strives to be neutral - criticism of Israel is allowed as long as it remains against the government (politics, policies, etc.) and not some racist diatribe.
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edit: One more thing...



I'm sure there are people from all walks of life and of some influence visiting the White House.

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[edit on 8/2/2006 by Gools]



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:10 PM
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I agree with Gools . . .

Remember that life in ancient times was full of believes of things that the people could not understand and they interpreted the best way they could.

So in this age and times as modern times we all know better.

Demoralizing religion . . . any religion is not a good way to get a point across.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Monsieur Goy

Check out these pics
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...
www.shmais.com...


Did you know...
It is considered a criminal offense to discuss certain historical events such as the holocaust of World War 2? Many countries actually have laws against holocaust denial. Why?


Wow, photos of leaders with jews (jewish children even) and holocaust denial.
WATS votes for this?

What happened to all those people who had deny hate in their avatars?

Drop the hate

I thouhgt this board was smarter than this.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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What is this? Stormfront night?? And why are ATS members falling for this undercover racism??
See Gools comments above.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 10:27 PM
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Critical analysis of a "Zionist Agenda" and/or the Israeli government is just as important as a critical look at the "Project for a New American Century" and the neocon-infested US government.

However, as has been our experience, the vast majority of people who venture into this topic are unable to do so without reverting to racism, either subtle or overt.

ATS officially supports the intelligent discussion of any topic... and vehemently spits in the face of anything resembling racism. With that in mind, take care in examining this project. Stormfront self-styled "vree zpeech" is simply not tolerated here.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 10:28 PM
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I'm not gonna start arguing my point and turn these facts into what you call "racist" or "hate" filled.

The facts are there guys. Nobody is denying the holocaust here or pushing "stormfront" night on you.

One thing I don't agree with is taking away freedom of speech by putting people in jail for questioning the holocaust. I don't know what the figures are, but I do know that "6 million" has been force fed to me so many times that it would be 100% truth if I didn't know who owned the media.

Obviously alot of people died in the WW2 and it's tragic, but who are you to accuse others of thought crimes?



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Monsieur Goy
Nobody is denying the holocaust here or pushing "stormfront" night on you.

We've been through this before... and have seen threads on that site organizing an effort to "infiltrate" discussion here.



One thing I don't agree with is taking away freedom of speech by putting people in jail for questioning the holocaust.

There are societies (Germany) still reeling from a "national guilt" over what was allowed to happen under their banner. While I personally support freedom of expression, I don't disagree with a culture making the attempt for partial atonement for past crimes in this way.



if I didn't know who owned the media.

That's a sweeping statement, with a root beginning in ignorance. Careful there.





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