Originally posted by andy1033
2manyquestions - from my opinion morals do decline. just look at murder, killing of another human. in ww1 they say something like 70% of the soldiers
could not fire a gun at another person.
andy1033,... I think you're ignoring the fact that even today new soldiers have trouble shooting at people. Believe me, a lot of them come back
psychologically 'damaged' because of the shots they fired. Anyone who has never shot/killed anyone before will have trouble committing their first
act. Did you find any statistics with the same question posed for Soldiers fighting in Iraq? Even if the percentage is lower for those who fight in
Iraq, it may have something to do with their current training, not the soldiers' personal morals.
look how thats been eroded by people today rational beliefs that murder in war is ok under any circumstances. just look how the news have people on
saying that killing little kids is ok because this and that. while in times gone by, no media would have really said stuff like that. so thats a moral
that hasn't changed it has just been eroded.
I've never heard anyone in charge say that "murder in war is ok under any circumstances". If it were, soldiers wouldn't be punished in the court
of law for the abuses and deaths of prisoners for instance. Sometimes deaths of innocents are 'justified' by saying it was an accident, but no one
in charge (to my knowledge) would say that it was O.K.
You're wrong in thinking that in the old days they would never justify the deaths of innocents, despite how wrong it was. The media (newspapers) back
then used propaganda just as much as the media today. How do you think they rallied people to fight in conflicts like the Civil War, or against the
English, or French, or Mexicans, or Native Americans? They ran some of the biggest propaganda against the Native Americans,...the "red-skinned Indjin
savages" as some might have put it in the old days.
look at torture, something years ago that most would speak out against. today you have countless tv shows depicting torture, and comedy shows
depicting torture as something good and funny. while torture of humans should always be wrong, americans and others find alot of it funny today.
You're wrong about this too. They used to hang people in public!! They used to make it a great spectacle. People gathered around, and watched
prisoners (sometimes innocent prisoners) break their necks as they fell from the podium. They used to burn people at the stake in public. Some people
actually brought their children and picknick baskets to the hangings and burnings. It used to be entertainment for many. I don't think you'll see
any of this going on inside the U.S. today. Not anymore. Elsewhere in the world maybe (i.e. public stoning), but not in America.
the two examples show how morals have been eroded and not changed. but it comes down to the fact that you have to choose whether right and wrong are
absolutes or not. if they are society would say when things are wrong they are wrong, but today like so many things thinks are clouded by
Those two examples show nothing of the kind. You know,.... society/the law has to uphold a lot of basic moral principles today in order to stop people
inside this country from doing things that were O.K. back in the day, such as torturing and killing animals for sport. Back in the day no one would
give a fig about some guy torturing cats, dogs or what have you. Today at least the law gives fines, and maybe even jail time for such cruel acts.
Today most people inside this country accept the fact that animals have rights too. Back then most people didn't care.
just look at the news today, and you will see people from lebanon, saying why is the world not speaking out about this, and the arab world, and why
not do something to syop israel. this is a perfect example, we are so deconditioned to human suffering where things always should be wrong, but today
we just do not care.
Your post, as well as the posts of dozens of people here on this board prove you wrong. People inside America DO care what happens to the Lebanese
people. I care, you obviously care, and I bet that millions of people inside the U.S. care as well. We speak our minds about the attrocities in the
world every single day. Luckily we have formed a society which allows us to speak our minds this way. Not everyone supports Israel,.....and once again
the posts on this board prove it. Maybe nothing is done, because many of us feel powerless at the moment. We, as individuals, obviously have little
power over what Israel or Hezbollah does.
people who believe that right and wrong are not absolutes are wrong. living in a society that says these things are not wrong, is wrong. but hey, you
americans just go and have your fun, playing video games blowing people up and watching hollywood movies where all arabs are terrorists.
This paragraph shows your ignorance on the American culture. I'm not sure it even deserves a response. As someone who came to America from Europe
(and lived in two different countries inside Europe), I think I'm qualified in comparing a couple of cultures. Americans are some of the most
tolerant, hard-working people in the world (as far as I can tell). They are compassionate, caring, they try to help those in need, and a large
percentage certainly doesn't sit on their behinds playing videogames all day, or watching violent movies. Those are stereotypes you must have picked
up from your own biased media, or from believing everything that Hollywood puts into their movies (Most Americans know better than to believe in
Hollywood). Just as anywhere else in the world, some people in America aren't educated enough to be able to think for themselves, but this is NOT
unique to America. This is true for any nation in the world. Everyone has their village idiot so-to-speak.