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Topic started on 1-8-2006 @ 03:32 PM by Delta Alter

I’ve got to do this before my head explodes.

I have previously posted a thread entitled ‘MKULTRA celebrities, which garnered replies from a few like-minded people and a few skeptics.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Since posting I have continued (obsessively) to research the notion that celebrities are mind-controlled, Illuminati slaves.

Obviously, a lot of websites rehash the same information, and there is a lot of nonsense out there as well. There are limited books on the subject, and most of the evidence is circumstantial.

But it still seems so OBVIOUS to me. Brainwashed, controlled slaves, used by the Illuminati to enforce propaganda, Make money, corrupt the masses, exploit and eventually discard to create ‘legends.’

So many celebrities are followers of mysterious, cult- like religions. A few examples:

Linsday Lohan, new Kabbalah devotee – also set to star in a film about Mark Chapman, another MKULTRA mind controlled slave.

The Beckhams - seen sporting the mysterious red band, also two of the most influential celebrities on earth.

Britney Spears – Kabballah follower, ex child star and Disney-club presenter. Born into the trap?

Keira Knightley – the latest celebrity to wear the string. Also the latest celebrity to start looking decidedly vacant.

Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher – Demi is also an ex-scientologist. What is it all about??

Roseanne Barr – Kabbalist, and according to some, Monarch Slave.

Liz Taylor, another supposed Programmed slave who follows Kabbalah.

And now the latest, Guy Ritchie (A man born into the aristocracy and married to the most famous Illuminati slave and Kabbalist of them all)) is making a documentary about Kabbalah, which includes sections on Albert Pike’s book Morals and Dogma, which draws parallels with Kabbalah and Freemasonry!

In his celebrated and controversial guide to the degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Albert Pike devotes a considerable amount of space to Kabbalah, calling it, among other things, "The key of the occult sciences" (p.626).
www.masoncode.com...

Last weekend he was at a service at the New York Kabbalah Centre telling people of his plans for this doc, which will include the parallels between Kabbalah and Freemasonry, which were written about in the 1871 book Morals and Dogma, by Albert Pike.
www.filmstalker.co.uk...

There are stories about the Beatles being a Tavistock Social Engineering project,

www.illuminati-news.com...

Rumour of celebrities visiting Bohemian Grove,

www.freepressinternational.com...

We know for actual fact that Jayne Mansfield and other celebrites were Satanists

www.the600club.com...

And satanic ritual abuse is cited in a lot of Monarch Programming claims.

members.aol.com...

A lot of celebrities are born into fame and are child stars, with precocious talent and sometimes an eerie maturity (Dakota Fanning, Macaulay Culkin, Olsen Twins, Brooke Shields, Shirley Temple) and many are born of Famous parents (Angelina Jolie, Melanie Griffith, Jamie Lee Curtis)

Keeping it in the Illuminati family, perhaps?

Harry Benson is a photographer who achieved his fame as the man was there when:
a) Bobby Kennedy was shot
b) Martin Luther King had his funeral
c) Richard Nixon resigned
d) Michael Jackson invited him into his bedroom
e) Liz Taylor had brain surgery
f) The Beatles found out they were number one in America
And much, much more.

Let’s take a look at some of his subjects:
The Beatles
All the Presidents
All the Kennedys
The Osmonds
Shirley Temple
Brooke Shields
Mia Farrow
Nancy Cartwright (Voice of Bart Simpson AND Scientologist)

Illuminati Photographer perhaps?

www.harrybenson.com...

So what do others think? I would really appreciate any support with this theory. My research is starting to tie itself in knots.

And for the skeptics: when you think about it carefully, is it really all that implausible?

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reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 04:02 PM by Yarium

Impossible? No.

Implausible? Yes.

In the words of Robin Williams: Cocaine is God's way of telling you you're making too much money!

I think that people, as a whole, follow celebreties too closely. We feed off of their personas, their denamour, their bravado. I mean, more people voted for American Idol than voted in the US Election - and which was more important?

We are much too quick to say that actors are at fault, but really, it's money. They're making too much of it (the movie-stars that is, real actors have it rough).

In fact, we make such a big deal out of actors, that we tend to take everything we do and blow it out of proportion! I mean, a hollywood actor gets pregnant and it's "OH MY GOD!" and we go through a whole adventure to find out who the father is, are they going to get married, are they seeing each other, or is this some forbidden love? We're engrossed in it. We jump at their sites and fawn over their favours.

How would you like camera-men following you around all day, every day, 24/7? Checking up on what you eat, where you go, what you do? The world of the Hollywood Actor is most like the world that doomsday-sayers and Illuminati/NWO proclaimers sing about - theirs is a world under constant scrutiny.

If you or I were to visit a Mosque, well, that'd be cultural exploration.
If Mel Gibson visited a Mosque, I'm POSITIVE that the media would churn it into a story of "Mel Gibson questioning his faith?" or "Mel Gibson sends in-person condolances for recent wave of racism against those of Middle-Eastern descent". The actors just can't live a normal life.

And so maybe they reach out a bit more. They have the money, and the time, to do things we can never do. Sure they may join a small cult for a party, but how many of them seriously follow that religion? And are we in a position to judge them considering how far blown out of proportion the media makes everything that they do?

The truth is that hollywood actors are people like you and me, prone to all our falicies, full of all our dreams - it's just that they live under constant pressure and have millions of dollars. It's just that they live in a different world than we do.

reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 04:10 PM by Enkidu

I wouldn't worry about it. You don't follow everything these celebrities do, or listen seriously to their philosophical ramblings, do you? These people don't mean anything to me. They can go worship grilled cheese sandwiches, for all I care. The day I start to study the Kabbalah because Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher think it's the way to go is the day I need to see my doctor about tumors or other brain damage.

Forum protocols prevent me from using certain words that I believe would more accurately sum up what I feel about it.

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reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 04:18 PM by Delta Alter

Hi, Yarium

originally posted by yariumthe truth is that hollywood actors are people like you and me, prone to all our falicies, full of all our dreams - it's just that they live under constant pressure and have millions of dollars. It's just that they live in a different world than we do.

But I don't think they are anything like you and me. They are exceedingly odd and neurotic. When you do a bit of digging around, very often you find interesting tidbits that fit in with the theory. Such as:

Brooke Shields (who dated Michael Jackson,John Kennedy Jr and Prince Albert of Monaco, and was involved in child pornography) has a father who is a descendant of several Italian Noble families (Burgia, Medici, d'Este) and her grandmother was a princess. Illluminati connections, possible sex slave?

Elvid Presley had three TV sets, all tuned to a different channel and on at once. Multiple personality?

The Osmonds were 'discovered' whilst at Disneyland. Coincedence?

I must point out, I am painfully aware that my 'evidence' at the moment is rather weak, but I just have this feeling in my gut that just won't leave me. It just seems to make so much sense.

Think of the sheer number of celebrities that have died premature, suspicious deaths.
There is no doubt that MKULTRA exists - it is an absolute fact. Would the elite not use it to their advantage? They want puppets, not strong-willed individuals.

reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 04:22 PM by Delta Alter

Originally posted by Enkidu
The day I start to study the Kabbalah because Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher think it's the way to go is the day I need to see my doctor about tumors or other brain damage.

I never said you should, what has that got to do with anything?

You seem to have totally missed the point of my thread

reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 05:56 PM by Yarium

I'm not saying that celebrities aren't ODD - but, then again, would a NORMAL person have the personae to become a hollywood celebrity? I think not.

There's a certain portion of eccentricity that's required to become a cult figure.

For your examples:

Brooke Shields is descended from old Italian families. So what? I'm currently dating a Kennedy (extremely loose connection... extremely). I fail to see how being in a family automatically makes you suspect of being Illuminati or a sex slave. In all honesty, it sounds like very unfair prejudices - like assuming someone from an upper-class family is snobbish, or a person from a lower-class family is a red-neck.

Elvis Presly had 3 TV sets going on at once. But look at how many TVs are now owned by the average family. I work in a customer service center, I know that almost all houses now have 2, and it's not uncommon for me to find a house that has SIX TVs! Elvis was simply rich enough to do it. Also, look at visions of the future - especially "Back to the Future; part 2" - notice how people in the future watch tons of stuff at once. It's an example at how unfocused our society is becoming.

As for the Osmonds... I don't know what they are or what they have to do with Disneyland, so no comment.

And as for Gut-Feelings - let me tell you this. Personal Experience is the worst bias in the world. Why? Because your memory of the experience, since it's personal, will vary remarkably from the actual events. Your memory will exaggerate and build a story and fill in missing pieces with its own creations. Gut Feelings fall under the same category. Our first-impressions can be exceedingly helpful, but also exceedingly distracting.

Perhaps you have spotted something "wierd" about celebrities - your first impressions are usually right at some level - but you may have unintentionally put a wishful story in place of what actually is, because it's more interesting, more diabolical, and more profound to have actors be mind-controlled puppets than it is for them to be falliable like you or me.

Mind you, I understand that you're set in your vision here - and I expect, and indeed hope, that you continue to research it! I just hope that you do so with an open mind, without prejudices, and without seeing the end before you've travelled to every point inbetween.

reply posted on 1-8-2006 @ 06:25 PM by dgtempe

I wouldn't lose any sleep over this one. I think money drives people to seek other things, higher things, and if these people find the truth in Hubbard's work, why not?
I think he's nuts- but i'm poor. I dont know what i'd be looking for if i had it all.

reply posted on 2-8-2006 @ 05:59 PM by masonite

@ celebs on kabbalah its like scientology they out of all people nee dthe reinvention of what is in place. Do they end up seeing the reaosn why they do this is the question.

@mind c ontrol most people where jeans because it is the thing to do, is this not a form? Deep or shallow it is what you make it. Can someone be that daft to be controlled and not realize? I hope not but if so they deserve it and maybe hey controler and controlee are a match made in...

reply posted on 29-3-2011 @ 08:56 AM by Tonyburke

reply to post by masonite

Most are no different than all of us they do what they are told if they want to keep their job.
Some of us refuse to do certain jobs because we are aware of negative consequences and are in a position to do so, the same applies to some actors who have a choice about which scripts they will accept.
It's a matter of awareness and the willingness to stand up for principles.
The only difference between celebrities and us is that their choices will have a greater affect on society.

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