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U.S. plans for a democracy in Cuba

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posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 11:15 AM
Obviously the U.S. has plans to put democracy in place in Cuba as soon as Castro dies. They have no plans of letting Raul continue to uphold communism in the country. This will be interesting to watch. Just what we need - another iron in the fire.


posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 11:28 AM
why the US want us to be soooo much in a demcratic/capitalist world.
why american gov. dont mind his own business. Then we would have less topic to read about why ppl hate america. and dont start talking about how we need to be protected from these ppl. Believe me, many thing you fear as been in place for years in your own country by the ppl you have legaly elected so all i have to say is screw the democratic process USA is trying to place around the world.

posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 01:19 PM
Are you Cuban or are you just a huge Castro fan????

posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 01:37 PM
There are many reasons why a democratic cuba is in the best interests of not only America but Cuba as well.

Aside from all the illegal immigration from Cuba to Florida there are countless more who either die in transit to the states or after making almost the entire journey are stopped before they get to shore and then sent back to Cuba...usually.

A democratic Cuba would almost certainly greatly decrease the amount of Cubans who risk their lives every year on rafts made of everything from bathtubs to actual tom sawyer type log rafts. These people are desperate for a better life; a democratic Cuba gives them a better shot.

Also trade, they're such a close and convenient neigfhbor that good trade between both countries would of course be mutually beneficial.

Opening up a democratic cuba to america also increases Cuba's tourism business exponentially. If Cuba were to go democratic and all embargos were lifted between our two countries Cuba stands to make billions of dollars a year in tourism from the american people.

First there's the curiosity factor Cuba is a bit of a tropical mystery to most americans, we'd go just to finally go.

Also, cruise ships galor would be trucking between Florida and Cuba loaded with happy go lucky americans looking to spend their cash in this new exotic locale....Sales of "I went to the revolution and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" shirts alone would be seven figures.

If they were to go totally old school and make gambling legal again like they did before the revolution then look out we'll come in droves.

Just my opinion of course but that's how I see it.

Good and bad in every situation but communism will never win out over democracy because in the end communism in practice never benefits the whole only the few.

Democracy may not be perfect and it may not offer monetary equality to all but at least with democracy you've got a shot at personal success and theres nothing wrong with that.

Viva Cuba Viva Libertad!


posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:24 AM
Democracy will eventually enter Cuba. It will get there when Castro dies. His
brother is too old and frail to last long or be of any significance. Communism
WILL fall apart there soon after Castro goes to Hell.

Unless those whacks in Hollywierd step in and decide Cuba should stay communist.
A bunch of them have come out in support of Castro and communism there
recently. Watch for a mass exodus of Hollywierdos to Cuba to set up a radical
left wing communist Hollywierd government.

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:09 AM
Believe me, the Hollyweirds (lol) would be building along beaches all over the place in Cuba.
They wouldnt dare say communism is a good thing- they would have their head handed to them on a silver platter and their asses would be kicked off the island-money or not.
We will see what develops. Its high alert time for Cuban-Americans, who even if they stay here (which most will) they would gladly go there to help rebuild and make it the paradise it used to be. I hope they leave the Spanish construction our forefathers from Spain built. It would be a shame to destroy some of that construction. Its so beautiful!
The Cathedral in Havana, one of the most beautiful in the world, has been used for at least 40 years as government headquarters

I'd like to see that fixed up- what a beauty!!!

Lets see what today brings...I hope it doesnt bring Castro speaking from a hospital bed....

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:11 AM

1st, GWs reference to Fidel 'moving on' is not too uncanny timing.
after all GW was speaking to an anti-Castro crowd, and that was a
sound-byte sure to please the gathering.

The populace in Cuba will gladly accept the $80 mil aid & such for 2 years
but after the initial feel-good commadre of a change of regime & leadership
the Cuban govt won't stand for a US & big oil takeover of their nation.
even in the guise of 'democracy' 'freedom' etc etc

i remember that Cuba & China have made (oil drilling & distribution)deals
already and that friendship
will continue to grow stronger and evolve into other areas of their economy.
Cuba broke ties with the US for a reason back in the late '50s
i more or less expect Cuba to align more towards Chavez in the long run

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 05:24 PM
Devils advocate here, would Cuba be in such bad shape if it wasnt for the US embargo? China is a repressive communist state yet the United States trades billions of dollars worth of goods there. Why the double standard when it comes to Cuba? Too close for comfort or just entrenched US hatred ala Iran?

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:18 PM
Subz, cuba shot itself in the foot

by forming alliances with Russia. They were left to rot, and i am glad. I'm not glad because the people have gone hungry or without, but the US figured this would eventually get Castro out. It never did, obviously. At least that is how i understand it.

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:38 PM

posted by opinionsarefree

“ . . the U.S. has plans to put democracy in place in Cuba as soon as Castro dies. They have no plan to let Raul continue to uphold socialism in Cuba. This will be interesting to watch. Just what we need - another iron in the fire. [Edited by Don W]

Right. If it goes as well as the democratization of Iraq, the US will be in bankruptcy court by 2008.

Bush43 was in Miami and spoke of Cuba's future. "If Fidel Castro were to move on because of natural causes, we've got a plan in place to help the people of Cuba understand there's a better way than the system in which they've been living under," he said.

Sweet Jesus! How would anyone propose to do that? Even before we talk to the Cubans? Is this plan made by the same guy who planned the Iraq operation?

The plan, released last month by the Commission for Assistance to a Free Cuba, recommends that the United States spend $80 million over two years for food and other aid to Cuba to encourage multiparty elections, free markets and democratic institutions.

Who or what is this “Commission for the Assistance to a Free Cuba?” Sounds like another Ahmad Chalabi scheme?

The United States has been open about the fact it is prepared to go to some lengths to ensure system Castro created goes out with him. It is official U.S. policy to "undermine" Cuba's planned succession from Castro to his brother Raul . .

Can America intrude into a sovereign nation’s internal affairs legally? Or are we the true rogue state that knows no law as we are so often accused of being?

“ . . the White House is "monitoring the situation," though he did not provide details. Castro resisted repeated U.S. attempts to oust him and survived communism's demise elsewhere. Cuba has been under a U.S. financial embargo since 1961, two years after the Castro regime came to power with the ousting of then-President Fulgencio Batista.

And Fidel sent the American Mafia holed up in Havana’s hotels filled with prostitutes, drugs and gambling, packing! And Fidel has managed to have universal health care. And universal education. No wonder the Americans want him out! If all the Western Hemisphere could see what Fidel has accomplished, we’d be ousted everywhere.

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:01 PM
Fidel was in the list of the most rich people in the world, but his country was one of the most poor. Cuban's are brainwashed because fidel disconected them from the world. This is why he has many followers, they don't know what happens out of the country just the lies of the goverment. It would be dificult to make a democracy work.

[edit on 2-8-2006 by rapture777]

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 10:16 PM

posted by rapture777

(1) Fidel was in the list of the most rich people in the world, but his country was one of the most poor. (2) Cuban's are brainwashed because fidel disconnected them from the world. This is why he has many followers, they don't know what happens out of the country just the lies of the government. It would be difficult to make a democracy work.

(1) How would anyone know about Fidel's wealth? Do you think he files a tax return anywhere? Wouldn't this be more or less a Cuban State Secret? Hmm?

(2) Are you suggesting Americans are not brainwashed, too? I am not sure at all that Cuba is disconnected with the world. The US has disconnected itself from Cuba, but Cuba deals will all other countries around the world. We're the "outsiders" who are disconnected. Not Cuba.

[edit on 8/2/2006 by donwhite]

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