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North and South Korea Exchange Gunfire

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posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 09:14 PM
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After receiving incoming rifle fire from the North, South Korean soldiers returned fire. No one was injured, and there is no information as to what prompted the exchange of gunfire.
 



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Soldiers from North Korea and South Korea exchanged fire along their border late Monday, but no one was hurt, a South Korean military official said Tuesday.

The incident happened shortly before sunset when North Korean soldiers fired two bullets toward a South Korean guard post in the eastern part of the Demilitarized Zone, said Maj. Kim Tae-hoon of the Joint Chiefs of Staff office.

South Korean soldiers immediately fired back six rounds, Kim said.

He said South Korea doesn't know what prompted the North troops to open fire and the secretive communist country hasn't said anything to the South about it.




Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


I guess KJI just wants more attention focused on his part of the world right now, what with the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict getting all the coverage lately. NK has kind of dropped out of the news after their 4th of July missile launches went nowhere.

All kidding aside, the last thing the world needs right now is more border skirmishes with the potential to escalate into full-blown warfare.




posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 09:55 PM
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It appears the last time this happened was a little more than three years ago, as tension started to grow over NK's nuclear program.



Thursday, July 17, 2003

South and North Korean soldiers briefly traded machine-gun fire in their border zone Thursday, raising tensions even as Secretary of State Colin Powell expressed optimism about diplomatic efforts to resolve the North Korean nuclear standoff.

U.S. military officials are paying close attention to reports of the incident, said Navy Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman.

"It appears to be an isolated incident," Davis said Thursday. "Similiar incidents have occurred in the past and serve to illustrate the tense nature of the demilitarized zone."

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[edit on 31-7-2006 by Icarus Rising]


apc

posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 10:12 PM
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With it known that NK has funded Hezbollah in the past, and may still hold ties, I have to think that his saber-rattling is more than it seems.

Even whiney children can play chess.



posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 10:15 PM
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This sort of thing constantly happens on the DMZ. Odd as it seems, its normal.



posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 11:50 PM
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The (Korean War) ended in a cease-fire, not a peace treaty, meaning that the two Koreas are still technically in a state of conflict.


North and South Korea are technically still at war, and though I wouldn't say these incidents happen all the time, the timing of this particular incident, as apc pointed out, may be more than coincidental.

Lately it had seemed to me that the South was becoming more sympathetic to the North, even to the point of the two seeking reunification. A brief search yielded a very interesting article from Strategic Insights, a journal from the Center for Contemporary Conflict



Such attitudes are reflected in early 2004 polling data that found thirty nine percent of South Koreans considered the United States posed the greatest threat to the ROK, compared to thirty three percent who ranked North Korea as the greatest threat.[9] Similarly other early 2004 polling showed forty six percent of South Koreans saw the United States as the main obstacle to Korean reunification, compared to twenty five percent who named the DPRK.[10]

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and so the plot thickens.....

[edit on 31-7-2006 by Icarus Rising]



posted on Jul, 31 2006 @ 11:58 PM
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I just read something in the news about the US getting ready to withdraw additional troops from Korea, odd this happens the same day.
Despite North Korea's missile-rattling on the Fourth of July, the US is moving ahead quietly with plans to reduce its forces in South Korea



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 07:36 PM
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"MyATS" is showing that the last post on this thread was made by "DontTreadOnMe", but I don't see his post on the thread. Whats up with the vanishing posts lately here on ATS guys?



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 07:43 PM
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twitchy it was simply bumped by an ATSNN mod. Happens in other forums as well. One of the perks of modship, nothing sinister.

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posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 07:46 PM
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I think forum moderators have the power to 'bump' threads they find relevant without posting to them.

If that is the case here, I thank DTOM for the attention to my story.

I haven't heard any more about this incident, but I will search for stories on the outcome of any investigations into it.



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 10:55 PM
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I found some more background on this incident this evening.



Ties have become notably strained since North Korea defied international warnings, including from South Korea, and test-fired seven missiles on July 5th.

After a frosty inter-Korean ministerial meeting days after the tests, Seoul said it would suspend food aid until Pyongyang returned to stalled six-country talks on ending its nuclear weapons program.

North Korean delegates stormed out of the meeting and said the South would "pay a price" for spoiling inter-Korean ties.

Since then, North Korea has halted several projects with the South, including the reunion of families separated by the war.


It appears the recent NK missile tests have resulted in escalating rhetoric on both sides, and the institution of sanctions on humanitarian aid by the South against the North.



In another sign of the souring relationship, a South Korean commission issued a report on Tuesday reiterating North Korea was to blame for the 1987 explosion of a Korean Air jet that killed 115.

Seoul has avoided bringing up that incident in recent years in the interest of its "sunshine policy" of engagement.

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The situation over there seems to be quickly going from unstable to untenable. We need some rational diplomacy to kick in and settle things down in a hurry, but given the state of the world today, what are the odds of that?



posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by apc
With it known that NK has funded Hezbollah in the past, and may still hold ties, I have to think that his saber-rattling is more than it seems.


NK linked to Hezbollah? any link to that, that's one version I had never heard.

Tensions have been raising with Australia as well

A North Korean cargo ship that was used to smuggle heroin into Australia has been sunk by an Australian fighter jet.

Australian troops seized the ship in 2003 after spotting it unloading part of a huge heroin shipment at a beach.

The Australian government said the bombing was a warning to North Korea to halt its involvement in drug smuggling - an allegation Pyongyang rejects.


apc

posted on Aug, 1 2006 @ 11:50 PM
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I thought that was common knowledge? It's old news... 80s and 90s. Emphasis on may still hold ties. Can't find anything in a few seconds of searching but I'm sure if you look hard enough you can turn up something from back then. Might mean a trip to the library though.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by apc
I thought that was common knowledge? It's old news... 80s and 90s. Emphasis on may still hold ties. Can't find anything in a few seconds of searching but I'm sure if you look hard enough you can turn up something from back then. Might mean a trip to the library though.


Looked quite hard, but the most I've found was NK giving engine and missile technologies to Iran, no funding whatsoever, and nothing linking NK to Iran.

From my point of view, it doesn¡t seem plausible, NK is not precisely a wealthy country, and funding a terrorist group is not cheap (ask CIA when it funded the terrorists in Afghanistan)



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 06:42 AM
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to the people who believe the corrupted media,

go post in a mainstream forum would ya.


apc

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Ioseb_Jugashvili
Looked quite hard, but the most I've found was NK giving engine and missile technologies to Iran, no funding whatsoever, and nothing linking NK to Iran.

From my point of view, it doesn¡t seem plausible, NK is not precisely a wealthy country, and funding a terrorist group is not cheap (ask CIA when it funded the terrorists in Afghanistan)


Wow you're not kidding... there used to be a few articles from the late 90s and earlier this decade on the second or third page of Google results. Last time I searched was the beginning of July literally days before the Israeli conflict started (kinda funny the timing of my search). Now it's page after page of stuff about the conflict... Damn those speedy Google spiders!

However, like I said, youre not going to find much on the Internet. Best bet would be the old fasioned way of looking through newspapers at the library. I can't recall exact dates or events unfortunately.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by apc
Wow you're not kidding... there used to be a few articles from the late 90s and earlier this decade on the second or third page of Google results. Last time I searched was the beginning of July literally days before the Israeli conflict started (kinda funny the timing of my search). Now it's page after page of stuff about the conflict... Damn those speedy Google spiders!

However, like I said, youre not going to find much on the Internet. Best bet would be the old fasioned way of looking through newspapers at the library. I can't recall exact dates or events unfortunately.


Well, during the 90's, North Korea was facing famine and almost bankruptcy, so I still find hard to believe any possible link between hezbollah and NK, more to the fact that what use has NK for Hezbollah?

Israel are not enemies of NK, and even when they're allies of the US, why bother funding them? When you have japan across the pond, a real enemy (though there had been incresasing trade prior to the missile launchs, and the US just across your southern border...

Sorry, but it just doesn't seem logical at all


apc

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 08:24 AM
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What's logical about blasting a bunch of rockets into the ocean knowing full well it would destabilize and inflame the region? Kimmy is far from logical.



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by apc
What's logical about blasting a bunch of rockets into the ocean knowing full well it would destabilize and inflame the region? Kimmy is far from logical.


Could be to gain credibilty about it's missile program "hey look, my guns work, don't forget it" I agree, he's not sane, yet he doesn't act without knowing what he does to some degree. Either way, so far I've found no proof whatsoever of a link with Hezbollah



posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 11:53 AM
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On the North Korea-Hezbollah connection, I didn't find any direct links either. The closest I came was an article from 2003.



According to both American and Russian intelligence, North Korea possesses large stocks of the nerve agents sarin and VX that were made at as many as eight chemical weapons facilities. Russian intelligence has reported that North Korea is experimenting with anthrax, cholera, plague and smallpox, and might have weaponized some of these lethal pathogens.

U.S. officials have accused Kim's regime of selling drugs and missiles and counterfeiting currency to raise money. But would Kim sell fissile material on the terrorist market?

Kim has not been linked to any known terrorists, but he has been caught peddling weapons to the governments that support them.

Late last year, U.S. forces boarded a North Korean freighter in the Arabian Sea that was carrying a load of medium-range missiles bound for the Middle East.

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apc

posted on Aug, 2 2006 @ 01:05 PM
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Bah, there's two specific articles I found last month but I can not seem to relocate them. They talked about NK involvement with Hezbollah in the late 80s. It's a conspiracy!$#@


Here's something miniscule though... the inferrence is that NK is providing a means of raising funds rather than providing the funds directly...

Hezbollah and North Korea


It is beyond strange that North Korea manufactures knock off cigarettes and Viagra.

It is even stranger that these are the very items Hezbollah sells in the United States to raise money.


Certainly not conclusive. Google be damned.




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