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The ones supporting the arab agenda
How many of these "civillians" have ties to Hezbollah?
Had they any common sense they would have evacuated long ago.
Oh but wait, what kind of terrorists fight on an open battlefield...obviously something is lacking...oh why the civillian umbrella of course!
"....your signature is wrong I think.. isn't the Israeli shooting from in front of the US flag?
"....wouldn't that be closer to the truth of what is really going on in the middle east?
Originally posted by Odium
I would like to see some proof. How is the BBC supporting the Arab Agenda? Are you claiming that Mark Thompson is Anti-Israeli? I'd also like to see any level of proof for such things or is this just a case of a different source having to be Pro-Arab because that's the only way you can debate? If it disagrees then it's just to promote the other agenda?
Clearly Hez are more accurate with who they kill?
How? Please do tell me, wehn the bridges have been bombed. The roads are attacekd, mini-buses [used for transporting civilians] attacked just in case Ham are using them and so on and so fourth.
Yep, then Israel does the same thing. Let's take a look:
Camp Filon - Golan Heights
Camp Anatot - Anata
Camp Bar Lev and Camp Julis - Qiryat Mal'akhi
Camp Rabin - Tel Aviv.
They are all within or near civilian areas. Israel also bases themselves around civilian zones. However, whenever they are attacked they cry "civilians". It can't be done both ways, it is an either or situation here.
JudahMaccabbi and Zenem: You're confusing odium and others with facts, and they'll argue 'till their last breath.
People who know nothing of war will do that, as will those who eternally believe that those who's only wish is to see you dead will change their mind if you talk nicely to them, and give them things.
Did you know that in Israel it is illegal to air most of the terrorist footage of rocket attacks, civillian Israeli casualties, etc. out of the fear that it might cause panic?
BBC has frequently been a biased news source especially when it comes to the middle east--it's an indirect bias but nevertheless it is omnipresent.
It doesn't have to be an out of the country evacuation! Many of these civillians probably know full well if they are at risk/close to terrorists...they could dissacociate themselves if they wanted to.
You're comparing a millitary base...(which I have yet to see proof of what you mean "in or around civillian zones") to terrorists taking shelter in civillian residential buildings. As if Israel has soo much plentiful land to ration of for isolated millitary bases...
Originally posted by Souljah
Ask yourself, how many Murders does a Western Child see on TV by the age of 7.
Ask youreslf, how many Violent Video Games does a Western Child play by the age of 7.
And you are going to Preach us about Islamic Society?
Originally posted by intrepid
And what does any of this to do with the topic? Let's stay on it please.
Originally posted by grover
I find it absolutely appalling that some of you justify or write off civilian deaths by claiming that they were associated with hezbollah...they were civilians you morons, non combatants stuck in a bad situition. Your kill them all approach is obscene. And you have the fricking nerve to take ME to task when rightly or wrongly I take a moral stance that the whole bloody thing is wrong. Idiots!!!
Originally posted by Odium
centurion1211 and as I have already pointed out.
Israel claimed only 450 people killed were Hez members. 900 people have been reported as killed, so even if we use their nunbers that's only 50/50. Now, if we include the new report that's only 37[military] and 31 [civilians] in Israel killed.
However, why would Israel not claim they've killed mostly Hez members? Your theory, has to be applied both ways. Israel will say they've killed more Hez members and Hez will claim they've killed only civilians.
However, only Israeli media has given this 450 figure so far. As I sourced, Russian, British and many others have given the 900 civilian figure.
Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
Israel has a tendency to hold on to the dead bodies identify them and bury them since Arabs do not tend to return IDF bodies. With time the truth will come out.
I think we will also find out that the Lebanese civilians dead are much smaller than reported. Arabs have a tendency to inflate these numbers like they did in dir yassin and the Jenin 'massacre'.
I assume that much of the dead civilians are actually Hezbullah fighters.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Now which side is more barbaric??????
1. cruel: cruel or extremely brutal
2. uncivilized: uncivilized or unsophisticated when compared to highly developed civilizations ( sometimes considered offensive )