Originally posted by Skeptik1st
you would also be very ignorant to think that they aren't plotting and scheming to some degree.
- OK, if that's the spin you want to put on it.
But it is equally fair to say that any
political meeting by anybody then could be termed 'plotting and scheming'.
Maybe Bush and all the others at the recent G8 meeting were plotting scheming against Iran and Venezuela?
.....or maybe Iran and Venezuela sometimes talk about where their interests coincide (and that doesn't necessarily equate to the world revolving
around the USA or anybody else)?
The oil bourse was mentioned; that's a far more likely subject for them to have been discussing......and if they do do it it'll be because it suits
their interests and not primarily because of any effect it'll have on the USA (which is highly debateable anyway).
In the article i posted Hugo Chavez was boasting about the new deal made by Russians as far as the weapons deal...And he said after that, if
all goes well then maybe one of these days they can be a big export of weapons.
- All I am pointing out is that those 'big arms deals' have been talked about (by several parties) in relation to Venezuela and the Russians for
ages, several years.
Few seem to actually transpire.
In those circumstances (and especially in regard of the piffling 24 new fighter jets, which have not even arrived and may - like the Mig 29 deal
before them - never arrive) I think talk of WW3 is laughable.
Equally claims about Iran's 'strength' or even in combination with Syria, Venezuela, North Korea or any of those militarily 'pygmy states' is
But another point that i might add is, what makes you think that Iran wouldnt give Venezualas Country a WMD of some sort in the
- ......and do what with it?
I don't think so.
With the Iranians think'n "hey were too far away to cause any kind of damage over in america, so # lets just give some highly destructive
weapons to Venezula and they can deal with it.
- You can make up anything and scare yourself with whatever fantasies you like but it doesn't make them fact.
I don't see anyone in a rush to suicide their entire nation (which would be the undoubted effect of something like a nuclear strike).
It appears that maybe you do......perhaps that says more about you or 'our' western mindset though, eh?
We are seeing that kind of situation with Iran right now involving Hezbollah and Isreal.
- I don't agree that that is what is going on there at all.
Hezbollah and/or Hamas are not Iran's 'proxies' (any more than they are any of the other ME regional people's who support their 'cause').
Other countries may support them but they did not create them.
..Just a thought...Im definitley not saying that WWIII is eminent, but things are moving in place right now for something destructive....Any
more thoughts ATS?
- Well fair enough.
I just wish that if people don't really think WW3 is imminent that they would keep making the reference.
It seems to me like this is a little like self-hypnosis.
If you really want a WW3 then keep on talking about one, keep making it sound possible, maybe even reasonable and soon eneough probable and who knows
maybe you'll even get one.
(but the cosy notion that it'll all effect and grievously hurt 'someone else somewhere else' will be possibly the first rude awakening in store)