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Originally posted by ben91069
The absolute truth of God is that all sins have been forgiven.
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people are all going to be saved and we will all live with them on a day to day basis in the Kingdom of Heaven. Are you ready for this?
Originally posted by ben91069
Are you ready for this?
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 8:24 (words of Jesus Christ)
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
The Science of Meditation
It is not possible to experience Reality or Truth, that which interests all of us, unless we free the Essence, which is trapped in the ego; if we do not, we will have to continue to live on in a world of dreams, in the intellectual center, emotional center, motor center, instinctive or the sexual centers. We want to be able to escape, to experience Truth.
The Great Kabir Jesus said: “Know the Truth and it will make you free.”
Truth is not a question of theories; it is not a question of believing or not believing. It is not a Matter of concepts or opinions.
Can you form opinions in relation to Truth?
What is an opinion? It is the projection of a concept, keeping the doubt and Fear that truth is another thing.
What is a concept? Simply an elaborated Reasoning projected by the mind; it can coincide or not coincide with something.
Can we assume that a concept or an opinion given out by the Intellect would be precisely the Truth? No.
What is an idea? An idea can be magnificent; for example we can form an idea in relation to the Sun; such idea could be more or less exact, or more or less mistaken, but they are not the Sun. That way also we could form multiple ideas in relation to Truth but they are not the Truth.
When Jesus Christ was asked what is Truth he kept silence; when Gautama Sakyamuni the Buddha received the same question, he turned back and walked away. Truth cannot be defined by words; the same with a sunset. Anyone can go into Ecstasy while watching the Sun beginning to hide behind the golden splendour of the mountains, but trying to communicate to others this mystical experience is very difficult because others will not feel the same.
So Truth cannot be communicated. Truth is real for the one who has the experience. When freed of the ego we can experience Truth, we can perceive a radical transforming element within us as a high voltage element. This is possible but we have to know how to get it: by putting to work our Consciousness to replace mind and feeling so that the integrated Consciousness in us will be the one to function.
We must have a passive mind, a passive feeling and a passive personality, but have a totally active Consciousness. To understand this is indispensable; it is urgent if we are to become practical meditators.
Responding To Christian Fundamentalism?
"Therefore, no one can recognize the truth, because no one has ever known it.
"Let us not talk about the truth. It is better to talk about Alchemy.
"The "I" can die only by transmuting desire into Wisdom and Love.
"The Truth comes to us only when the "I" dies.
- Samael Aun Weor, Chapter 29, The Fundamental notions of Endocrinology and Criminology
Originally posted by queenannie38
BECAUSE God IS MAGNANIMOUS!
What the heck does that mean?
Originally posted by ben91069
The murderers, rapists, politicians, thieves, adulterers, idolaters, liars, and just generally what people think are bad people are all going to be saved and we will all live with them on a day to day basis in the Kingdom of Heaven. Are you ready for this?
Originally posted by ben91069
The murderers, rapists, politicians, thieves, adulterers, idolaters, liars, and just generally what people think are bad people are all going to be saved and we will all live with them on a day to day basis in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
What does your God say?
Originally posted by queenannie38
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
What does your God say?
MY God says you are a
SOURPUSS
Originally posted by Sun Matrix
As always you are quick to praise the blind and lost.
original quote by: ben91069
The murderers, rapists, politicians, thieves, adulterers, idolaters, liars, and just generally what people think are bad people are all going to be saved and we will all live with them on a day to day basis in the Kingdom of Heaven. Are you ready for this?
Originally posted by TONE23
If god forgives those types of people then Id rather be in hell.
Originally posted by TONE23
I believ him to be an absentee landlord... that permits wickedness and evil to succeed here in the mortal world.
And if the author if the thread is right.. then screw god!.. I am sorry if that offends anyone.. but Thats how I feel. Now if the guy is not right.. and they will face judgement.. then thats another story.. and god should understand my perspective..
Personally I already think I AM going to hell(if there is such a place) because I do not believe myself to be worthy of saving anyway.
Sorry... like I said I have Issues with god.. that still need to be worked out.. too bad he wont talk to me about it...lol hes busy telling bush to invade Iraq I guess.
thanks though yeahright.. I CAN understand where you are coming from... I think I am having a really really bad day. And this authors point kinda pushed me over the top.
Originally posted by yeahright
Naah, you don't mean that. I don't believe anyone is suggesting that there aren't consequenses. There are. Big ones.
But eternal torture and hellfire damnation isn't one of them. Think about how long a mortal's life is compared to eternity. It's not even a blip.
When the time comes, it'll make sense. Trust me when I say to trust God.
How long did it take God to transform Saul on the road to Damascus? And he was the most evil man who ever lived. How much time will it take God to turn around the worst of us, given an eternity to do so? Not as long as you think.