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CIA Almost Destroyed the World/It Wasn't A Movie

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posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 02:06 PM
Any one heard this before? Sort of a conspiracy if true as no one was told but interesting coz human nature/error and nukes don't mix

In a new book, appropriately titled "From the Shadows" ((Simon and Shuster, $30)), Robert Gates, a former top White House national security adviser and a director of one night during the Cold War when the nuclear nightmare see in special effects movies almost happened. In a 3 a.m. phone call, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former national security assistant to the President, was told of a U.S. National Military Command Center
report that the Soviet Union had just launched missiles carrying 220 nuclear warheads at targets in the United States. According to Gates, Brzezinski knew that President Carter had a "window" of three to seven
minutes in which to decide whether to launch a retaliatory U.S. missile strike. Brezezinski held off waking the President for a minute or two to await a confirming report.

One minute before he was going to alert the President to push the nuclear button, Gates says Brzezinski got another call saying that the original report was inaccurate--that the Soviets had actually launched
2,200 warheads in an all-out attack. Then, just as Brzezinski was about to call the President to suggest vaporizing the U.S.S.R., he got a third call that someone had put a training drill in the computer at the North
American Air Defense Command. Sorry--false alarm

From the September 1, 1996 edition of "The Washington Spectator"

The actual atricle

posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 02:22 PM
well i'll be... that would of been pretty bad...

posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 02:42 PM

Originally posted by deafence#
well i'll be... that would of been pretty bad...

pretty bad huh? *laughs at the lack of imagination*....try horrendously FATAL perhaps?

ok...this is genuine, i never heard of it, but damn, there's site's buzzin with it all over.

you know....*swears and flips the finger at white house*
we could be ripped to shreds if smthng like this occurs again and results in a not-so-happy-ending

i hate the idea of getting radiation sickness coz sum1 drilled the wrong IBM

*looks out of window imagining the change in scenery after nuclear warfare*

posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 02:47 PM
This actually went semi-public before...

From all appearances, this actually happened, and more than once... Indeed, many feel that such an incident was the inspiration for the movie WarGames. The number of times we've gone DefCon 4 is pretty scary I'm told...

Our fish were hot and the birds were in the air during each of these cases...scary stuff... Might be comforting to know though, there are recall and cancellation codes that can disarm modern missiles after launch (so I'm told). Of course, most of them are decades old, so it doesn't really make me feel that much better, hehe...

posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 02:52 PM
Therefore left wing logic is get rid of nukes? right?

But let our left wing buddies keep them right?

Sorry I don't mind a screw up here or there as long as I know that we can take them out if we need to.

How many books have been published on Russian frokups?

See the difference, no freedom!

The only useful thing to come from this story is how to do things better in future and I am sure it was studied to death by the military.

Does anyone know about the recommendations?

posted on Oct, 29 2003 @ 03:04 PM
i don't advocate getting rid of all nukes, without them there would have probably been a non nucular ww3 by now, people just make mistakes.
I don't want to be killed by a computer error
but its not really funny.

I imangine the person who screwed that up got an almighty bollocking.

posted on Oct, 30 2003 @ 12:48 AM
We should just let Homer Simpson take charge of everything... Then it would just work out, with hilarity...

posted on Oct, 30 2003 @ 10:26 PM
I've scanned an excerpt from this book I have. i know, there are some typos, my scanner's fault.

1. On January 24, 1961, a B-52 on airborne alert developed
structural failure of the right wing over Goldsboro, North Carolina.
Two weapons separated from the aircraft during the breakup of the
plane at an altitude ranging from two thousand to ten thousand
feet. The bombs were both twenty-four-megaton bombs, which is
equivalent to twenty-four million tons of TNT. The total energy of
TNT released during World War II was three million tons. One
bomb crashed, and five of its six safety catches were triggered. Had
that bomb exploded, it would have destroyed much of North

2. On March 14, 1961, the second serious accident involved a
B-52 failure near Yuba City, California. All the crew bailed out at
ten thousand feet, except for the commander, who stayed with the
aircraft to four thousand feet, steering it away from populated areas.
Two nuclear weapons on board were torn from the aircraft on
ground impact. Luckily, the high explosives did not detonate.

3. On January 13, 1964, a B-52 crashed during severe
turbulence near Cumberland, Maryland, in isolated mountains.
The plane contained two hydrogen bombs.

4. On December 8, 1964, at Bunker Hill Air Force Base,
Indiana, another plane crashed into a B-58 on an icy runway. The
B-58 slid off the runway, and its left main landing gear struck a
concrete electrical manhole box, igniting the aircraft. Portions of
the five nuclear weapons on board burned. The report states that
contamination by radioactive material was limited to the immediate
area of the crash and was subsequently removed.

5. On January 17, 1966, over Palomares, Spain, a B-52 and a
KC-135 collided during a routine high-altitude air-refueling opera-
tion. Both aircraft crashed. The B-52 carried four nuclear weapons;
one was recovered on the ground and another from the sea on April
7, after extensive search and recovery efforts. High-explosive
materials from two of the weapons exploded on impact with the
ground, releasing large quantities of plutonium. Approximately
1,400 tons of plutonium-contaminated soil and vegetation over 640
acres were scraped up and imported to the United States in 4,827
steel drums, to be dumped straight into the ground at the Savannah
River waste-storage facility in South Carolina, where the average
rainfall is four inches per month. Plutonium is one of the most
carcinogenic, toxic substances known to man.

6. On January 21, 1968, over Thule, Greenland, a B-52
returning from Plattsburgh Air Force Base in New York crashed and
burned some seven miles southwest of the runway while approaching the base to land. The bomber carried four nuclear weapons, all
of which were destroyed by fire. Radioactive contamination
occurred in the area of the crash, which was on the sea ice, and
237 ,000 cubic feet of plutonium,contaminated ice, snow, and
water, with crash debris, were removed to an approved storage site
in the United States during a four'month operation.

7. The last declassified accident occurred in September 1980
at Damascus, Arkansas, when an Air Force repairman dropped a.
heavy wrench socket, which rolled off the work platform and fell
toward the bottom of a silo. The silo contained a Titan II missile
with a nine'megaton warhead. The socket bounced and struck the
missile, causing a leak from the pressurized fuel tank. About eight
and a half hours after the initial puncture, fuel vapors within the
silo ignited and exploded the liquid fuel. One man was killed;
twenty other people were injured. The nine'megaton hydrogen
bomb was catapulted hundreds of yards away and was found lying in
a field next to a grazing cow. Had this weapon exploded, its effect
would have been approximately 720 times greater than that of the Hiroshima bomb.

posted on Oct, 30 2003 @ 10:42 PM
Great info guys, but not surprising at all

posted on Oct, 31 2003 @ 05:26 PM
Here's an good site that lists all sorts of nuclear accidents.

This is an article that explains nuclear power more clearly.

A very small radioactive spill can go a very long way. In the understated entry no. 641, dated March 1984 in Juarez, Mexico, a cancer therapy machine (x-ray), was sold to a scrap merchant. People saw some leaking luminous powder and thought it was a healing ointment, and rubbed it on their bodies.

When it started causing radiation burns, they tried to wash it off thereby contaminating their homes, sewers and affecting others. News spread and the town panicked. Pregnant women and other non-involved casualties became contaminated by ambulances that had previously carried contaminated people; in the panic, no one thought to decontaminate the vehicles. While many fled, 30,000 were rounded up in the local stadium and many were screened. Two hundred people were located with high exposure to radiation. Five died from radiation poisoning and were buried in lead lined coffins in six foot concrete graves, to keep them isolated from the environment. The contaminated town stadium, sewerage and other facilities will remain dangerous for many lifetimes. The cost to Mexico in lost exports alone for that year, was $US 70 million. Considering the financial and human costs, the significance of this incident is that it involved an amount of radioactive Caesium 137 powder that would fit into a matchbox.

posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 07:28 PM
Pretty much DEFINES the word SUCKS, doesn't it...

posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 08:09 PM
This story is absoloutley true and as a result, training programs are not allowed to be kept at Missile Command centers. Missile simulations are done Missile Launch training centers.

There was a few times this happend. One time a computer chip malfunctioned. The USSR also developed a top secret horizon launch detection system that also failed. A number of years ago, switzerland launced a missile to put asatelite in orbit. So this actually happend about five times. The Last Time Boris Yeltsin activated his nuclear football...

All these events tell us two things. First that on any given day we could all be destroyed and two, that cooler heads preveailed and we are truly blessed.

posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 08:11 PM
Yikes, that would have been really bad.

posted on Nov, 22 2003 @ 04:29 PM
wow that wouldve been really really bad

posted on Nov, 30 2003 @ 04:15 PM
I Always new it would be the machines!!!

That would F**k up everything!

posted on Dec, 4 2003 @ 11:06 AM
how did they make such a mistake !!!!??????

posted on Dec, 4 2003 @ 11:15 AM
can you say oooops !!!

oh yeah... all they have to do is say

"my bad" and all is well, that's the rule you know ?

posted on Dec, 4 2003 @ 11:18 AM
LOL! What would you say after a full launch over nothing? "Oops! Did I do that!?!"

I'll bet some Christmas bonuses would have been lost over that, huh?

posted on Dec, 4 2003 @ 11:19 AM

Originally posted by MUDDYFOX
how did they make such a mistake !!!!??????

it's human nature to make mistakes

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