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Who is winning this war? Q & A With Uri Avnery

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posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:24 AM
This is interesting read.

Uri Avnery is a journalist, peace activist, former member of the Knesset, and leader of Gush Shalom

Can Hizbullah be pushed out of the border area?

The question is based on a misunderstanding of the essence of Hizbullah.

Not by accident is the organization call Hizb-Allah ("Party of Allah") and not Jeish-Allah ("Army of Allah"). It is a political organization, with deep roots in the Shiite population of South Lebanon. For all practical purposes, it represents this community. The Shiites are 40% of the Lebanese population, and together with the other Muslims they form the majority.

Hizbullah can be "moved" only if the whole Shiite population is moved - an ethnic cleansing that (I hope) no one is thinking about. After the war the population will return to their towns and villages, and Hizbullah will continue to flourish...

Olmert has said that we will not negotiate with Syria. Is that practical?

So he said. He has said a lot of things, and his tongue is still wagging.

Syria is a central player in this field. No real settlement in Lebanon will succeed without the participation - direct or indirect- of Syria.

True, Hizbullah was created by us. When the Israeli army invaded Lebanon in 1982, the Shiites received the soldiers with rice and sweets. They hoped that we would evict the PLO forces, who were in control of the area. But when they realized that our army was there to stay, they started a guerilla war that lasted for 18 years. In this war, Hizbullah was born and grew, until it became the strongest organization in all Lebanon...

Olmert has promised that after the war the situation in the region will be different from what it was before. Is there a chance of this?

Absolutely. But the new situation will be very much worse for us.

One of Hassan Nasrallah's aims is to unite Shiites and Sunnis in a common fight against Israel.

One has to realize that for centuries Sunnis and Shiites were mortal enemies. Many orthodox Sunnis consider the Shiites heretics. By coming to the aid of the Palestinians, who are Sunnis, Nasrallah hopes, among other aims, to forge a new alliance.

In the Middle East, a new axis may be coming into being, one that includes Hizbullah, the Palestinians, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Syria is a Sunni country. Iraq is now controlled by the Shiites, who wholeheartedly support Hizbullah. But the Iraqi Sunnis, who are waging a tough guerilla war against the Americans, also support Hizbullah.

sorry for long quote, took out bits of article.

From this, the only way to get rid of Hezbollah is to ethnic cleanse?
And more to the point, nothing will happen without negotiating with Syria?

posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 04:24 AM
ok my issue here isthe question and allegations of ethnic cleansing...

Okay today, IDF major assault killing 55+ civilians... 21 were children...

I saw it skimmed over on the news tonight and then checked the Lebanese Blog forum...

Qana falls victim of another savage war crime by the Israeli War Machine.

10 years after the first Qana massacre, and as part of their ethnic cleansing practices in the South, Israel hit a shelter in the Southern Village of Qana before dawn.

55+ dead, 21+ children.

Must be those precision Smart bombs that Condy Rice rushed to Israel.

now, cant provide link due to graphic images, u2u me if you want it.

This is
The Lebanese people themselves are saying Israel are ethnic cleansing.

After reading the article it pretty much says there can be no solution without ethnic cleansing. Now that is a sickening thought.

I guess I would just like to find out what other people think.

Could ethnic cleansing be on the agenda?

posted on Jul, 30 2006 @ 10:54 AM
It would not be the first time Israel has engaged in ethnic cleansing. The very first order of business when Israel was created was the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from the freshly formed Israel. Whole Palestinian villiages were slaughtered including children and babies. They mostly were not shot but bludgeoned to death.

But as you know, anyone who questions the Jewish supremecists are labeled anti-semites.

Given Israel's track record I wouldnt be surprised in the slightest if the Israeli plan is to ethnically cleanse the lower third of Lebanon of all Shiites.

P.S I highly recommend reading the whole interview with Uri Avnery. Why cant Israel be lead by people such as him

[edit on 30/7/06 by subz]

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