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44-Year-Old Man Faces ID Ordeal When Buying Beer

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posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 12:36 AM
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If the female clerk looked decent, I probably would have given her a hard time asking if this means we can go out on a date etc. etc. or if it's ok for you to write down her personal info as well.

Some people don't always seem too bright when it comes to enforcing the laws. If an id clearly shows someone is legal, I don't see a need to write down a bunch of extra information. The clerk would be better off spending the time making sure the money they receive is not counterfeit.

I remember many years ago I was visiting the St. Louis zoo with my parents when I was a teenager and the legal age was 18 but not strictly enforced. It was a hot day and I got thirsty. I was looking for a water fountain and started looking for any soda or water to drink. I found a line of people and they were giving away free drinks in big red cups. I got in line and got one. I was wondering why it had foam on top. Anyway I drank it down and didn't figure it out till later that I just drank a big cup of beer. Other than a shot of liquor as a young kid for when I had a sore throat, that was my first whole cup of beer. No id and no worry. I was probably around 15 or 16. It didn't hurt me one bit.




posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by orionthehunter
I found a line of people and they were giving away free drinks in big red cups. I got in line and got one. I was wondering why it had foam on top. Anyway I drank it down and didn't figure it out till later that I just drank a big cup of beer. Other than a shot of liquor as a young kid for when I had a sore throat, that was my first whole cup of beer. No id and no worry. I was probably around 15 or 16. It didn't hurt me one bit.




I remember when I was a kid we went to the local TGI Friday's in Florida and ordered the "Nutty Buddy" but that was the alcoholic version so they gave us the "Mr. Peanut," the virgin version of the drink...well one night me and my little sisters got the real deal and got drunk as a a skunk! Of course my father didn't care...nowadays, people try to sue over something like that :shk:



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77I remember when I was a kid we went to the local TGI Friday's in Florida and ordered the "Nutty Buddy" but that was the alcoholic version so they gave us the "Mr. Peanut," the virgin version of the drink...well one night me and my little sisters got the real deal and got drunk as a a skunk! Of course my father didn't care...nowadays, people try to sue over something like that :shk:


Nah, more likely to just raise enough of a big stink to get the meal free. Work @ OG, so I see people claiming no alcohol or is full of alcohol when all but maybe a couple times was the drink made wrong. They claim the food's dry when it's swimming in sauce, or soggy when the suace was brought out on the side. But then, we only put N/A drinks in the N/A glass, so if you bring the real thing, your server is an idiot.
They drink/eat at least half of it, the they think to say anything.

The few times there is something really wrong, people won't talk to the management, then complain for months later.

That drink, if not an honest mistake could cost them their job.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by jlc163
Nah, more likely to just raise enough of a big stink to get the meal free.


Well there was a real incident here in NYC a few months ago where a child was served a Long Island Iced Tea instead of an iced tea, the mother is sueing the restaurant (Applebee's I think) for like $80K.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Tetraspace
Just come to Louisiana....

It's pretty easy to drink down here....

You can be 18 to sell alcohol here.....

I worked promotions for a major liquor distributor when I was 19 in the city...

I can promise you down here no one will hassle you at age 44 for a beer.

And in New Orleans you can drink in the streets...any time, day, night, year, etc.


Also, if you are under 21 and fine dinning with your parents...
you are allowed to drink with them.

Just about all fine dinning est. will allow that down here.


except for corporate dining. I know Darden resturaunts will fire you, even though it's normal down here.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77

Originally posted by jlc163
Nah, more likely to just raise enough of a big stink to get the meal free.


Well there was a real incident here in NYC a few months ago where a child was served a Long Island Iced Tea instead of an iced tea, the mother is sueing the restaurant (Applebee's I think) for like $80K.


It does happen, but most people are looking for an excuse for a free meal.
People pull parts of their eyebrows out and put it in the sauce on their food, after they ate half of it.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe

I think that cashier was a NWO operative, or had delussions of being one.

[edit on 27-7-2006 by dgtempe]


are you serious? an NWO operative working at a cheveron station as a cashier, who it seems like only did this to one person. thats a little out there dont ya think



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 08:50 AM
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YIKES! Everytime I hear a story like this one the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. There is no way that the clerk (and I use the term "Clerk" loosely because back in the day it use to mean you we're the records keeper, the accountant, inventory specialist and recorder of government and court life) of a gas station should ever write down personal information from someone's driver's license for any reason. Only a police officer should retain that type of identity invasion. I completely feel bad for you (a 44 year old, married, works for a living, etc.) should ever be asked for I.D. in a convience store unless it's just to look at the birthdate PERIOD. How incredibly disrespectful that counter person was to you. Here's the deal (and I know it sucks but it beats giving an unknown individual your personal data): You say "NO THANKS", set the beer on the counter and go to the next store. Let me segway on over to this other tip as well for your protection (similiar subject safety tip). Make sure that for the rest of your life as you renew your driver's license that you ask for a different number other than your social security number. I repeat DO NOT use your social security number for your driver's license. Don't make it any easy for the con artists that like to steal your identity for their nefarious purposes. Aaaaah, I feel better now.

[edit on 28-7-2006 by carnival_of_souls2047]



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 09:48 AM
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I don't know where you guys are but I know at some supermarkets (and yes, some but not all liquor stores) here in IL they have to enter in your license number in order for the cash register to accept the scan of a case of beer. I am 24, but I know it has happened to my parents at the grocery store as well. I've only had an ID checked once at a liquor store after I turned 21, and they entered it in the register. Haven't had one check since.

It really doesn't bother me ... there's a big problem with underage drinking around here as it is, so requiring info of everyone is a smart idea on their part. Taking down anything more than license # is pushing it though IMO. That is all that is really necessary to find out all the other information the lady took down anyways.

[edit on 28-7-2006 by Fiverz]



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 11:34 AM
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I guess what I would have done is ask the Clerk for her ID, and then copy down her information, see how she feels...

When telemarketers call my house, I tell them I can't take the call right now, but could they please give me their house number so I could call them back later on that night.....of course, they refuse, and never call back ....!





posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by The Edge




When telemarketers call my house, I tell them I can't take the call right now, but could they please give me their house number so I could call them back later on that night.....of course, they refuse, and never call back ....!




Now, that's a good one. I'll have to use it myself. I told the last one my name was Eileen Sideways.
She didnt get it.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:49 PM
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I don't know about writing personal information for beer...

However, I was at a local pharmacy, and they now require people to log in (write name & address, then sign -- in an unmarked binder, with badly copied pages and no official markings anywhere) everytime they purchase cough syrup. Before the old lady could even pay for it, she had to write her 'personal information' down, then the cashier took her money. The cashier could not do it for her, the lady herself had to.

Frankly, all one needs is a photographic memory to scam people's identity's... In the state of Mass. I am required by law to ask anyone who looks under the age of 30 (ask the manager and he says 40) for an ID. People get angry, but (as was previously stated) I don't want to lose my job and pay a $300-$500 fine.. If you don't have ID, don't even bother asking for smokes, or blunt wraps, or 'trucker's speed'... (but sugar, msg, caffine, loads of sodium.. that's still okay; kids can buy Red Bull and other hyper-caffinated beverages without anyone raising more than an eyebrow -- should we require put an age-restriction on that too?? ... it is, afterall, going to affect their physical/mental growth...)
If I *really* wanted to steal id's or screw someone over, all I'd hafta do is snap a mental picture of their id's.. memorize their info -- it's all right there! (truly, a perfect setting for identity theft.. if I were so inclined.)
My school ID has my social security number on it... the school peeps gave me a blank stare when I asked why.. 'that's your id number..'
Not to mention that some states have the social security numbers on the driver's licenses.. (another reason I refuse to turn my out-of-state license in!)

People get angry when asked for id, consider it an infringement on their personal rights (How dare you?!), but then get even angrier when their kid is caught with something that's age-restricted (Why didn't you!?). I fail to see the lack of connection....

The only way to figure out exactly why the information was taken (is there a difference between an unofficial binder with crooked lines and a random piece of paper??) is to ask the manager.. ask the company. If there are 'higher' authority figures requiring such information be taken down, then this is not an isolated case -- but simply, a case of an isolated irritation.
That old lady logging herself in for cough syrup didn't raise any questions.. just put her information in the un-labelled binder (filled with pages of lines, that were crooked and had absolutely no official markings what-so-ever), signed her name and went about her business...

'lead, follow, or get out of the way! .... nevermind that -- just obey!'
And they do.
And we wonder why the authority figures are pushing the boundaries like little kids without any sense of respect... (I wanted to put 'moral' infront of respect, but frankly morals are no longer taught.. so how can we even hope for any sort of morality?? ...no one even owns up to their own responsibilities anymore..)

[edit on 28-7-2006 by Diseria]



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:09 PM
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Diseria,

Pharmacies require you to log your signature and verify your address, if its a narcotic sometimes you need to show a liscense. That's been standard procedure for them since i can remember. They have to. They have a lot of people handling and filling those RX's and not only that, they want to make sure the meds go to where they're supposed to go. I worked for one part time early 90's and all those signatures get saved- just in case. There are people who will come back and claim they never got it, then we look for the signature. But you expect this from a pharmacy or other places- its only weird when it comes from a clerk at some convenience store.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:13 PM
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my grandmother had to show ID when ordering some wine at a restaurant...

when she asked the waiter why, he replied that it was the state law...

different rules in different places i guess...





posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Diseria,

Pharmacies require you to log your signature and verify your address, if its a narcotic sometimes you need to show a liscense. That's been standard procedure for them since i can remember. They have to. They have a lot of people handling and filling those RX's and not only that, they want to make sure the meds go to where they're supposed to go. I worked for one part time early 90's and all those signatures get saved- just in case. There are people who will come back and claim they never got it, then we look for the signature. But you expect this from a pharmacy or other places- its only weird when it comes from a clerk at some convenience store.


he was talking about non narcotic cough syrup. they do this to prevent people form making methamphetamines and also to prevent underage children from abusing these medications



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:56 PM
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Trash bag- thanks for your translation.

People do weird things with cough syrup- It is a pharmacological ingredient as well.
Medicines have been controlled because people are turning their kitchens into meth labs. OTC meds will one day be a thing of the past. I cant say i blame the pharmacies and their regulators. It just hurts people like me who sometimes get a cough or stuffy nose.

But- the thread is about buying beer.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Trash bag- thanks for your translation.


But- the thread is about buying beer.


hey, you started it



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 02:59 PM
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Oh yea???

Just kidding.

Why cant we be friends?



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Oh yea???

Just kidding.

Why cant we be friends?


we are friends, at least i consider us to be.friends can disagree, i think friends need to disagree to have a healty relationship



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 03:15 PM
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Agreed.

Some of my best friends here are political enemies


Just ask.



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