Israel "Ignored" UN Troops Pleas To Stop Firing So Close To Them, page 10


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reply posted on 27-7-2006 @ 09:52 PM by pavil
Originally posted by wang
Have participated? Check this
Source i provided in the other thread showing the number of resolutions agaisnt Palestine is 0 and the number of resolutions agaisnt Israel is atleast 65.


Nice website for as they put it:
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world’s major sources of instability. Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power – and duty – to bring a resolution. url=http://www.ifamericansknew.org/]http://www.ifamericansknew.org/[/url]


Their report is so "full and accurate" as to totally gloss over and not even mention the 147 suicide bombings done by Palestinian extremists from 2000-2005 except for this little blurb:
While the large majority of Palestinians oppose suicide bombings, many feel that armed resistance has become necessary – much as Americans supported war after the attack at Pearl Harbor. Nevertheless, only a small portion take an active part in the resistance, despite the fact that virtually all support its aim: to create a nation free from foreign oppression.


Give me a break.


reply posted on 28-7-2006 @ 05:03 AM by bombers8
Originally posted by wang
Have participated? Check this
Source i provided in the other thread showing the number of resolutions agaisnt Palestine is 0 and the number of resolutions agaisnt Israel is atleast 65.
They didnt participate but incited the violence for along time.

The UN is very anti-Israel, judging by it's actions:
U.N. institutional structures consistently are used to isolate and vilify Israel.

Israel is the only country in the world that is not eligible to sit on the Security Council, the principal policy making body of the U.N. This situation violates the principle of the "sovereign equality of all member states" of the U.N. under Article 2 of the U.N. Charter.
Seven of the 140 items submitted for a vote in the U.N. General Assembly (UNGA) in 2002 were anti-Israel. Last year, the UNGA adopted 19 anti-Israel resolutions.
Israel is the object of more investigative committees, special representatives and rapporteurs than any other state in the U.N. system. For example, a special representative of the Director-General of UNESCO visited Israel 51 times during 27 years of activity. The Director-General of the International Labor Organization has sent a "Special Mission" to Israel and the territories every year for the past 17 years.
The "Special Committees" and "Palestinian Units" of the U.N. spend more than $3 million a year, essentially to spread anti-Israel propaganda. These bodies-the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People, the Division on Palestinian Rights and the Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People and Other Arabs-are the focus of the worst anti-Israel activity under the aegis of the U.N. They organize, inter alia, the annual "Palestine Day" events at the U.N., as well as symposia and other events.

The U.N. has failed to investigate Palestinian actions supporting terrorism.

The U.N. has never initiated any inquiry into Yasir Arafat and the Palestinian Authority's role in aiding and abetting terrorists, or passed one resolution condemning any terrorist organization operating against Israel.
One glaring example of the U.N.'s biased policy against Israel is the concealment and vehement denial of the existence of videotape of Hezbollah's abduction of three Israeli soldiers made by U.N. peacekeeping forces in Lebanon. For 11 months, the U.N. lied to the world and denied the existence of any evidence related to the abduction. When the cover-up was exposed, revealing the existence of the videotape, the U.N. eventually showed Israel a heavily edited videotape with the faces of the terrorists blurred. When asked the reason behind this, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan stated it was due to the U.N.'s standing as a neutral organization.

The U.N. has tolerated and fostered anti-Semitism and anti-Israel propaganda.

The U.N. has condemned virtually every conceivable form of racism. It has established programs to combat racism and its multiple facets - including xenophobia - but has consistently refused to condemn anti-Semitism. It only was on November 24, 1998, more than 50 years after the U.N.'s founding, that the word anti-Semitism was first mentioned in a U.N. resolution (GA Res. A/53/623).
www.science.co.il...


etc., etc., etc.

If it wasn't for the US defending Israel at the UN, the UN would have "resolutioned" Israel out of existence a long time ago.


reply posted on 28-7-2006 @ 08:29 AM by subz
Of course your novel tallysheet does not prove anything but if it makes you feel better and that you are 'winning' so be it. We are all losing here, until there is peace in the Middle East and the killing is stopped we are all fighting a losing battle.

I find the psychology behind bombers8 interpretation of the UN's actions against Israel very interesting. bombers8 thinks that the UN (aka The World) is anti-semitic because it investigates Israel more than any other nation. Absent from his analysis is the alternative interpretation i.e. that Israel has been a gross human rights violator for some 50 years.

But dont get me wrong, Israel is not alone in its gross human rights violations over the years. The difference being that the United States does not veto every single resolution with teeth condemning any other countries attrocities. Maybe if Israel was able to be dealt with effectively by the UN, without US protection, the problems of Israel's violations would of been solved decades ago.

If Israel's violations were solved decades ago I would hypothesis that the amount of Arabs baying for Israel's blood would be much less than today.

Can we imagine bombers8's interpretation being applied to the likes of Iraq? If the United States veto'd any resolution critical of Iraq Saddam would still be in power, he would still be violating human rights and killing hundreds of people annually. Would the UN stop investigating him? Most likely not. Would it look like Iraq was coping more attention and toothless 'anti-Iraqi' resolutions than other countries? Definately.

You want to know why the UN is ineffective, it's the veto.

[edit on 28/7/06 by subz]


reply posted on 28-7-2006 @ 02:26 PM by e2012
Israel will not defeat the hezbollah or the insurgency in iraq, you see there good at beating normal dysfunctional middle east armies like in the 6day war, but against guerilla warfare they cant win, this was seen during the veitnam war for instance.

Now, I feel that Israel and the socalled jews in the land are not semitic people most socalled jews are from europe originally, that land was controlled by the ottoman empire for 1000s of years. Then just because of the holocasut which the western, rothchild, zionist pupper masters engineered (how do you think the nazis got all that money to build an army out of the thin air... they were backed and financed by big time international bankers who munipulate both sides of the war).

Israel and the US have no regard for the UN or the red cross, infact Israel even attacked a US ship called the liberty back several decades ago. You see the US should get the hell out of the middle east stop backing israel and giving them weapons.

If the state of Israel was never created we could have avoided all this, all socalled religions which are at the root of this problem as well. CREATED to control us and cause warfare could have lived and dwelled there... I have more thoughts on this whole topic which I will post later.

My basic analysis of the situation is

1. the Global elite manipulate both sides of conflict via problem reaction solution.
2. the US top gov echelons engineered 911 and fund and train terrorist networks in order to invade the mideast ie oil war...
3. israel is the true terrorist state and has caused this war to try and defang hezbollah.
4. There will only be peace when both sides are mutually destroyed along with the rest of the human population. (long term illuminati plan for ww3)
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