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New York Times
Iraqi detainees were routinely subjected to beatings, sleep deprivation, stress positions and other forms of abuse by U.S. interrogators, according to a Human Rights Watch report released on Sunday that offers first-hand accounts from three former soldiers.
"These accounts rebut U.S. government claims that torture and abuse in Iraq was unauthorized and exceptional -- on the contrary, it was condoned and commonly used," said John Sifton, author of the report and the group's senior researcher on terrorism and counter-terrorism.
The United States has faced international criticism for the indefinite detention of detainees at a naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and for physical abuse and sexual humiliation of prisoners at Abu Ghraib.
The Bush administration, however, says it treats prisoners humanely. The Pentagon acknowledged earlier this month that all detainees held by the U.S. military are covered by an article of the Geneva Conventions that bars inhumane treatment.
But Human Rights Watch said the U.S. government's insistence that abusive practices were not authorized or routine and the military's failure to put any blame on leadership have hindered probes into detainee treatment.
U.S.: Soldiers Tell of Detainee Abuse in Iraq
Abusive Techniques Were Authorized, Soldiers’ Complaints Ignored
Torture and other abuses against detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq were authorized and routine, even after the 2004 Abu Ghraib scandal, according to new accounts from soldiers in a Human Rights Watch report released today. The new report, containing first-hand accounts by U.S. military personnel interviewed by Human Rights Watch, details detainee abuses at an off-limits facility at Baghdad airport and at other detention centers throughout Iraq.
“Soldiers were told that the Geneva Conventions did not apply, and that interrogators could use abusive techniques to get detainees to talk,” said John Sifton, the author of the report and the senior researcher on terrorism and counterterrorism at Human Rights Watch. “These accounts rebut U.S. government claims that torture and abuse in Iraq was unauthorized and exceptional – on the contrary, it was condoned and commonly used.”
Iraqi detainees were routinely subjected to beatings, sleep deprivation, stress positions
original quote by: RetinoidReceptor
If the people are killed, permanently injured, etc. Then that is a cause of concern. But when you are getting answers out of people you can't just have a tea party to get them to talk. Why don't you quote Russia's tactics or China's? Nevermind theirs doesn't matter.
Originally posted by TONE23
original quote by: RetinoidReceptor
If the people are killed, permanently injured, etc. Then that is a cause of concern. But when you are getting answers out of people you can't just have a tea party to get them to talk. Why don't you quote Russia's tactics or China's? Nevermind theirs doesn't matter.
except that it has already been proven that "torture" does NOT yield better answers from the detainees. If I were being tortured I would tell them anything(hell Id make a few things up) just to get them to stop...think about it.
Originally posted by shots
Nice to see that HRW's propganda machine is still working as usual spreading their same lies over and over.
I checked two of their links just to confirm what I thought and they are still denying that the IRC has visited the camps yet the Red Cross and others insist they have visited them. In fact even the author of the thread pointed out one of their visits after the 3 suicides at GITMO so that could not have been a lie could it.
that is the heart of the issue here. The Circumvention of the Geneva convention. Sure the "terrorists" do not adhere to the GC. But are we to lower ourselves to their level of barbaric behavior? Absolutely not!
Originally posted by TONE23
Oh it is absolutely possible that this info is not accurate...
original quote by: RetinoidReceptor
In anycase the only thing that really pisses me off is that everyone is just concerned about what America is doing, nobody knows what China and Russia does. Russians disregarded the Geneva conventions in Chechnya and so does China, yet neither gets even remotely as much press.
original quote by: shots
Better not tell that to the author of the thread he will kick you off his propaganda team