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Originally posted by GSA
Just goes to show what a race of thieving little gits the chinese are isn't it? Just like the Russians during the cold war copying any and every thing they could.
Originally posted by GSA
Just goes to show quick to reverse engineer the Chinese are isn't it? Just like the Russians during the cold war copying any and every thing they could.
Originally posted by chinawhite
So the WZ-10 was copied from a cartoon helicopter which only has a passing resemblance to it??????.
It doesn't look like any other helicopter. Unless your going to debate whether a A129, tiger, Rooivalk or cobra are copies because they "look" the same.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
If you are gonna have a 2-man crew...
Why such a 'stupid' assumption?
If you can't afford to expose a vulnerable airframe too slow to leave a targeted weapons solution and with too little altitude capability to fly above it. Why not use drones as a hunter uses hounds to flush a cougar? They can have civillian camcorder technology on them and at the range and relative LOS speed they fly at _still_ have orders of magnitude superior imaging to the best AAQ-30 Hawkeye available to an AH-1Z.
Certainly you shouldn't need two crew on EVERY chopper because why pay for the sensorization when you can LINK it?
They should be in tandem to reduce frontal area.
Why not put a single man out front so he doesn't have to look through the freakin' /head/ of his CPG while maintaining a shorter throwlength on the CG and thus overall size/weapons placement on the helo as a whole? Heck, let's pull the sensor installation too and double if not triple the thickness of his clear aluminum viewing panels in trade. No, better yet, lets make his vision _synthetic_ so the that laser and radar penetration of the cockpit goes away as well.
Then lets switch to a sidelooking radar with FOPEN capabilities so that we don't have to point the bloody chopper at the threat that is likely to shoot it. And can indeed MASSIVELY increase the array size as a whole.
The bloody Hezbollans are using Hollywood 'fake rocks' to hide Katyushas. Why aren't attack helos /all over/ that? Ans1: They can't find them. Ans2: they can't manually search likely areas without overflying threats. How much good is a CPG playing tourist with a tiny-ass FLIR nose aperture then?
If you MUST have a sensor operator, by all damn means PUT HIM IN THE CABIN WHERE HE BELONGS. Next to the bigbore telescopes or RTIP radar arrays he's using. And not first in line to take a bloody bullet.
Your blade number and size is dictated by aerodynamics, engine thrust and agility requirements [Last time I looked the Apache was a 4-blade rotor].
Dump weight. Power loading goes up.
Fly faster and put a pair of wings on or sculpt the body to serve as a LID type device in hover and a rotor offload in forward flight.
Dump gas because once you are in-cruise, you have better range:rates.
Dump drag because you put your weapons INSIDE the fuselage where they bloody well belong for reasons of environmental safety, signature and rapid pallet-reload.
Dump agility requirements because you never fly over a city or 'dodge' projectiles fired from a close-in threat and need only enough anti-torque to land 'into the wind' in VTOL. All other tail thrust being forward-propulsive.
NOTHING STAYS THE SAME ONCE YOU APPLY LOGIC TO WHY THE HELICOPTER IS A **FAILED** MILITARY SYSTEM!!
The same decisions on compromises are made in China and Russia in exactly the same manner as those in Europe or the states. You could go with a shrouded tail rotor, but it makes maintenance harder.
Crap. They are the same decisions because they are the _same mission_. You copy the way someone fights and it's a no-brainer that you get the 'same equipment solution' excuse for free.
That doesn't mean that you have a superior military, only a mirror image of somebody else' mistakes. What, the land that gave birth to Sun Tzu never /heard/ of "Never fight the way your enemy fights best?".
If the U.S. Army could ditch Key West, everything about it's rotary wing:fixed wing ratio'd fleet 'solutions' would change as fast as their 'CAS vs. Deepstrike' doctrinal _mission_ plans did.
Only the CMICs of other nations think that our military is 'above' internal parochialism and power struggles than to allow the security of our nation to be put at risk for personal pride. They are wrong. Our military is completely corrupt. So is Congress and the USAF is the fair haired boy getting the best budgetary steak because of it.
Go learn something about how aircraft are designed and built before coming out with such stupid statements.
Stupidity is like two pigs in a mud puddle. They love to get icky while squealing at each other. The mistake lies in getting down to their level to 'better understand them'.
Since war is nothing if not one giant opportunity for man to degrade himself to the level of animals, the real question becomes one of learning to avoid the mistakes of those who hostage their nations futures to a militarism that should not exist in a 'post cold' environment.
And certainly should not exist just to play a one-upmanship contest of having every killing toy your enemy does, no matter how inefficient or wasteful it may be.
Originally posted by ch1466
Looks like a cross between the Mangusta and Tigre to me.
Originally posted by Clownface
Anyone know if they plan to use a top mounted radar like the Longbow? I've always liked that design for popup attacks and scouting..
Originally posted by bodrul
when will this be in full production?