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reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 07:21 AM by Vushta
Originally posted by gordonross
"..and once inside the building they were set....how??"





The... demolition of the WTC towers was achieved using a four phase attack. These attacks weakened the tower structure, initiated the collapse, progressed the collapse, and finally completed the collapse.


Early stages of the write up so bear with me, but I'm sure you'll get the picture.

Gordon Ross.


Back to the word 'how'...not 'how can I concoct a scenerio in words and ideas'..but how was this done? "attack" the corners"..."attack" the core etc. doesn't really say much.


reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 10:20 AM by LeftBehind
Agreed Vushta.

Posting links like this only prove that people don't understand the complexity involved in controlled demolitions.

www.gieis.uni.cc...

It also shows that most people advancing these theories think that it happened like a movie. A few people just snuck in and planted devices on things is not realistic. It takes massive amounts of work to do a controlled demolition.

There are good reasons why demolition experts do not agree with the CD hypothesis.


reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 11:48 AM by solgrabber
Agreed Vushta.

Posting links like this only prove that people don't understand the complexity involved in controlled demolitions.

www.gieis.uni.cc...

It also shows that most people advancing these theories think that it happened like a movie. A few people just snuck in and planted devices on things is not realistic. It takes massive amounts of work to do a controlled demolition.

There are good reasons why demolition experts do not agree with the CD hypothesis.


No you are wrong. The information in that link was written be a highly skilled physicist, probably one of the best in the world in his area.

The same person also speculates on non-linear acceleration of climate change and specializes in mathematical models and communications. Unless you have not figured it out yet there are highly skilled people telling everyone straight out that 9/11 is a flat out lie.

Stop spreading the BS on the forum and let the truth be told. The towers, all three of them where brought down with explosives. WTC 7 was more of your coventional demolition which is just plain obvious by looking at the videos available all over the internet. WTC 1+2 was a much more powerful controlled demolition which is apparent by the matter being thrown upwards and outwards. If you want to see this matter being ejected do a search on google for the pictures, they are available just about anywhere on the internet as well.

If you would like to explain how gravity throws steel columns hundreds of feet outwards from the building itself be my guest, I need a good laugh.


reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 12:21 PM by bsbray11
Originally posted by LeftBehind
In context?

This is what you said.


then how do you explain the fact that they remained standing without additional failures until they collapsed?


There were additional failures, there is no context were the above statement is correct.


Show me where Vushta and I were discussing the fire damage and I'll admit that you are correct. We were discussing impact damage and the structure stabilizing afterwards, without additional failures, as in FROM THE IMPACT. You must be * snip * .

So a pseudo-maintenence team could perform wonders. Ok, what exactly do you think that they did?

Was it only to the core on the floors impacted, or was it every single floor?


I don't have any knowledge of how the Towers were rigged, or what types of explosives were used. All the examples we give here are theoretical to show that is was POSSIBLE. None of us would have been there to actually see it, obviously.

And if this negates demolition theory, that we can't describe a specific arrangement of explosives, what kind they were, where they were, etc., then by the same logic, your own theory must also be incorrect, as no one is yet to establish the exact mechanisms that allowed a "pancaking". Not NIST, not FEMA, not Greening, not the Commission Report, not Eager, (which all give different versions, btw, none of which supported scientifically) -- no one. They analyze the first floors to fail at most (which was NIST only!).

So if you want to get to the heart of it right away, neither side of this issue has provided a full, in-depth explanation for the global collapse in such details as you're requesting. What a surprise that must come to you guys.

But if you do have this covered, where as demolition theorists do not, then post it. The exact mechanisms that allowed the pancaking, beyond the same vague descriptions that we DTs also have to resort to from lack of information. Then you could claim to have some advantage over us, instead of this pot-kettle crap.

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reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 12:53 PM by LeftBehind
Originally posted by solgrabber

No you are wrong. The information in that link was written be a highly skilled physicist, probably one of the best in the world in his area.


That's great that he's a "highly skilled physicist", but he obviously knows nothing about controlled demolition. Let me show you what I mean.

www.gieis.uni.cc...

Given a good hiding spot for the devices, 1 person could move across 4 floors, positioning 60 devices, in 3-4 hours.


You don't cut steel beams by putting explosives in a "good hiding spot".

His whole scenario shows a complete lack of understanding on how a controlled demolition works.

His assertion that only 1500 devices would be needed is laughable.

It took over 4000 charges to demolish a much smaller building.

www.controlled-demolition.com...


In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system.




reply posted on 5-8-2006 @ 01:12 PM by LeftBehind
Originally posted by bsbray11
Show me where Vushta and I were discussing the fire damage and I'll admit that you are correct. We were discussing impact damage and the structure stabilizing afterwards, without additional failures, as in FROM THE IMPACT. You must be dense.


Look, pal, no need for name calling. You wanted him to explain "the fact that they remained standing without additional failures until they collapes".

It's not a fact. Get over it.

If you meant something else that's great, but trying to discuss

"the fact that they remained standing without additional failures until they collapes"

is ridiculous when there were additional failures.

I can only go off what you post, if you have deeper subconscious meanings they don't come across well. If being dense means "not a mind reader" then yes I must be dense.

/offtopic




Originally posted by Bsbray11

I don't have any knowledge of how the Towers were rigged, or what types of explosives were used. All the examples we give here are theoretical to show that is was POSSIBLE. None of us would have been there to actually see it, obviously.


Great, then why the heck are you posting in a thread called "How were the WTC buildings rigged with explosives?"?

This is not a thread about whether it was possible. This is a thread about how.

And so far these theoreticals are laughable. It's possible that Tom Cruise donned his Mission Impossible suit and did it singlehanded in one night, but there is no evidence of that.

Possibilities are not evidence.

Given that actual demolitions require thousands of explosive charges and drilling into beams, in addition to months of prep work,

How were the WTC buildings rigged with explosives?



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