The Real Deal With Syria?

I wondered what Israel's beef with Syria is, so I dug around a bit and I found an interesting little piece of information that could be the deal behind the deal so to speak in Israel's attempts to demonize Syria and drag them into a middle east conflict. Russia, China and India the three new explosive new demands for oil all have high hopes for the 1 billion dollar Eilat oil pipeline as an alternative to the Suez Canal which currently ends in Haifa, Israel. They want to run it through to Turkey, the only problem is that there is a large expanse of land between Israel and Turkey called Syria.


Israel and Turkey plan $ 1 bn oil pipeline



Call me crazy, but I think the invasion of Lebanon and the attempt to try to draw Syria into the conflict are just a way of gaining control of the reigon before the oil starts flowing through it. Who wouldn't want a piece of that action with the three largest growing oil markets all in one pipeline, all piped right through Israel.

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[edit on 21-7-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Maybe you can openly explain to me why this is being moved to PTS? Syria is being demonized as a financeer and supplier of Hezbollah, you know, war on terror stuff... What the hell does that have to do with politics Donttreadonme, and why the 'tude in the u2u?

Twitchy
In a state surrounded by not so friendlies, and being that the not so friendlies also hold the key to paying less for something you need . I think its a great motive to have them demonized, probably why they also supplied the bad intel in Iraq too. If you look into it you will find that there is also Gas in them thar Gaza hills to the tune of 1.3trillion cu meters worth off the gaza coast. Hmmmmm



Pie

If I remember right the same thing happened with Afghanistan really. Unocal was lobbying Congress to bomb the Taliban after they had backed out of a major pipeline deal, after which 9-11 was then the catalyst for an all out invasion and regime change, 'electing' a former consultant to Unocal of all people. This theory was nailed down for me when Bush then said that he didn't know where Bin Laden was and that he was no longer a priority of his administration. Hell the energy policy meeting that took place right before 9-11, which for the first time in history barred key environmental interests from attending, was said to have strategic maps of Iraq layed out for them. I don't know about all this war on terror crap folks, yeah there's terrorists out there, but it's not the reason for the season IMO.

Lets agree that there are terrorists but the perks on going after them is Oil,Gas,Large lucrative contracts, weapons deals, and lots and lots of cash flowing into peoples pockets.


Pie

The lack of response to this thread is pretty suprising, this whole situation with Lebanon and the way they keep trying to drag Syria and Iran into the mess makes alot of sense when you realize that initially the pipeline was supposed to carry Iranian Oil through it.

[edit on 23-7-2006 by twitchy]

This is the pipeline they are going to extend to Israel.

Gigantic Oil Pipeline From Caspian Sea Opened Today



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[edit on 2006/7/23 by Hellmutt]

This pipeline deal with Israel is interesting.

Looking at a map, any pipeline from Turkey to Israel would have to pass through both Lebanon and Syria, unless they went the long way around through Iraq and Jordan...

I guess with the propensity things in Iraq these days have for blowing up, that might not go too smoothly.

[edit on 7/23/06 by xmotex]

Crazy thing is that this pipe-deal is already signed, sealed, and delivered and India has already committed to a signifigant amount of it. In other words, Syria and Lebanon could be in for some real trouble in the comming weeks. Thanks for posting that map helmutt, the other end of that pipeline is already built right up to Haifa, I couldn't find a pic though.

Thank you Twitchy!

Finally, some one has suggested an explaination, more plausible than a couple of kidnapped soldiers, for Israel's actions; actions which risk not only a full-blown regional war, but a global conflict as well!

Given the obvious advantages an Israeli-controlled pipeline wold provide to the US (and NATO) interests, it also makes clear the US's hesitation to broker a cease-fire in the conflict.

I am very susprised, and somewhat concerned, that this angle of the conflict has apparently NOT been picked up by the main-stream media ( Conspiracy Alert!)

I just voted "Way Above" for you Twitchy (I hope it goes through!). I think this aspect of the current crisis might be the "lynch-oun" tying the whole "War On Terror" fiasco together! Great Work!

Ah Heck, just to make sure the WATS worked, I'll give you another!

[edit on 24-7-2006 by Bhadhidar]

I just fell upon something that would tie into this and it makes a lot of sense.

Villify Iran, cause the UN to set sanctions that would basically cutoff oil to the EU countries and Israel has a ready to go customer base that won't mind paying the slight premium on top of the Skyrocketed prices that will occur from Irans sanctions, that Israel will of course charge by getting it direct from the Mediterranean. Turnkey business with Customers from the get-go and Oil will be at record highs by the time this comes to fruition.



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Pie

Wouldn't Israel have to occupy Lebanon/Syria in order to control the pipeline? I don't see how that would be possible...

well it seems like Israel is working on that in Lebanon. Doesn't it seem strange to you that Israel would enter an agreement like that, and she admittedly says that all her neighbors wish to annihilate her into oblivion, yet plans to pass through these very same countries with a pipeline? Iraq has been pacified, Lebanon is in progress, and Syria as well as Iran are being mentioned a lot.

I would not commit to such a deal unless I knew that things would be my way. They must have a lot of confidence or maybe they know something everyone else doesn't.

Umm Guys. Help me out here.

Unless I'm missing something the pipeline doesn't even attempt to cross Syria or Lebanon. The oil will be transported from Turkey to Israel via underwater pipeline, or ship.

This is breaking news on CNN





Israeli forces would have to mean ground troops, How close to Syria?

What will be Syria's reaction?

If someone could post a map that would be great, but it seems like Israeli forces in North East Lebanon would mean a major incursion?

www.cnn.com...

here is a map

Lonely Planet

If Israeli forces are operating in Baalbeck that would indicate a huge incursion.

Maybe I should make this into a new thread..

The war is being waged in order to create a block with Turkey, Iraq etc and another block with Syria, Iran and Lebanon etc. The US gov wants that pipeline at all costs and they also want a permanent military presence, along with expansion of Israeli borders. The other issue is about the possiblity of a WW3 (the neo-cons call it WW4) but I doubt it will occur they way the Zionists want it.

The reason I say this now is I have a feeling this notion of WW3 may not happen - or at least not yet. Based on what that Dr. Rice claims, the Israeli defense force (err sorry, the Israeli offensive force) will stop the attack next week. Since she seems a little too optimistic about it, IMO she must have been told that this will occur. She's about as bright as that moron in the White House, so it is possible that she was told about it in advance.

Having said this, I think the end goal is to eventually turn Syria and Iran into dust and let me say that if Syria is attacked than Iran will have to enter into war. If Iran enters into war than its only a matter of time before China and/or Russia get involved. Remember that China just made a 300+ billion dollar deal with Iran for their oil and they will not sit back and simply do nothing. Russia also has interests in Iran so I am curious as to how this will play out over the next few weeks.