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A Lutheran Thing???


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reply posted on 26-7-2006 @ 04:47 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by defcon5
I see that this is a ELCA church, that is the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, which is the schism church that I mentioned in an earlier post. They have only been around since May 3, 1987, as you can check here on their own history page, so this building was apparently originally not theirs having been built in 1931.


This probably explains why the pastor did not know what mordicai was talking about and had to go outside and look at the carvings in question!

I would suggest a history check and see who built the church first.

The wings, etc of the dove... the dove is "displayed" in a proper heraldic tradition. Check on heraldry and you will find many creatures represented with claws that dont have claws. Nothing strange in that at all,



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reply posted on 26-7-2006 @ 05:39 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by Masonic Light
3. The chief Rosicrucian emblem is extremely similar to Martin Luther's seal.[/quote}

I would appreciate a link to that if you don't mind. I have seen the Wikipedi comparison to an old wax seal with Luthur's white Tudor style rose, but the article identifies that as Luthor's seal.

As an aside, neither Rosicrucianism nor Freemasonry are "cults", unless you define "cult" as a group of people who share certain beliefs, which means that everyone belongs to some sort of cult.


What truly amazes me is why there is such a dislike for Masonry. Do these people not understand that there would not have been a free society named the United States of America had it not been for the courage and determination of these people?



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reply posted on 28-8-2006 @ 10:38 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by NuTroll
i know the obvious reason a dove is used (symbol of peace), but why does it have eagle's wings and why is it on top of a sun disc with a templar cross forming a disc behind its head?

more importantly, why is the dove standing upright instead of decending (although i would probably call that out too).


Take a look at the winged disk of the Sumerians... and the cross behind the bird is the same as the one representing the "dark star" or Nibiru worn on the chest of the Annunaki King

This is a christian stylation of that symbol



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