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Originally By chief_counsellor
And yeah, the eye in a triangle has been a symbol for God for centuries. Since this is a Lutheran church, that would represent the trinity, the triangle, the three rays, the eye...the Truine God. The dove, the Holy Spirit. The cross over a globe, representing a lot of things, but in this context, the triumph of Christ through his death and resurection, and his supremacy over the earth.
And I know for a fact that Albert Pike talks in great depth the relationship between
Masonry and Lucifer... therefore according to him it is "Luciferian" and a cult is (SNIP)
i know the obvious reason a dove is used (symbol of peace)
but why does it have eagle's wings
why is it on top of a sun disc with a templar cross forming a disc behind its head?
Round halos are typically used to signify saints — i.e., people considered as spiritually gifted. A cross within a halo is used to represent Jesus. Triangular halos are used for representations of the Trinity. Square halos are used to depict unusually saintly living personages.
more importantly, why is the dove standing upright instead of decending
would explain why out of all the symbols a christian church could use to convey
a message (like this post I'm typing) they would choose three that have known
It just doesn't make sense to me why a group of people
who fought so hard to get away from the oppression of the Catholic church to
follow a more biblical path would turn around and adopt the same use of pagan
symbolism that the Catholic church had done for centuries.
I am looking to discuss this with someone who
knows what the Bible says about being separate from the world, and how this
to me is an obvious blending of the world (pagan symbols) and this Lutheran
church, and other "Christian" churches that apparantly don't care what the Bible
says about not being yoked with the world.
As far as the Renaissance aspect of this building, I doubt it. This part of the church was built in the 1930s during the indusrial revolution.
Originally posted by Essedarius
I would guess that the bird above is a symbol for God the Father.
From Matthew 17 at Jesus's baptism, God the Father appeared in the shape of a dove.
Perhaps that makes the entire carving a symbol of the holy trinity:
The all-seeing eye as the Holy Spirit.
The cross as the Son.
And the dove as God the Father
posted on 21-7-2006 at 04:01 PM (post id: 2356173)
Originally posted by defcon5
I am a member of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and have been since I was born. I went to Lutheran private school and Catholic high school, so I am quite familiar with their symbols. First off there is no such word as Lutheranism, it’s simply called Lutheran.
Second there is nothing Occult about the Lutheran Church, so if this is going to be a Christian Bashing thread then I will not bother beyond this post.
Originally posted by Mordecai81
I assure you... I am not a "Hoaxer". Just thought these images (having pagan origins) on a Christian church was curious and wanted to get other peoples input to add to what I've already found out. I thought that is what these forums were for... discussion... not whining.
Originally posted by Essedarius
You remind me of the guy angrily swerving through rush hour traffic this morning.
Man I dislike that guy.
Take a deep breath.