It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

A checklist

page: 2
0
<< 1   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jul, 26 2006 @ 07:55 AM
link   

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by TheBandit795
Can anyone help me with this??? It is a checklist on how the Rothschilds could be able to gain control of the planet.

Gain control of the Bank of England.... check


Well before this goes into skunkworks.....

Can you tell me how exactly the Rothschilds control the Bank of England? I am curious as to the mechanisms. Even if they do control it how have they used it to further their own ends? (whatever they may be).

Before 1998 the Bank of England was nationalised and directly controlled by the government. It was made independent by the Bank of England Act and was charged with directly formulating the country's monetary policy (interest rates).

The people who run it (the governors) are appointed by the government, although they act independently. Here is the list of the governors:

www.bankofengland.co.uk...

None of them appear to be a Rothschild.

To be honest I am always baffled by the apparent obsession with the Rothschilds - they may be old but they are a relativley minor bank. Goldman Sachs are probably the most powerful bank, if not the most powerful company, on the planet. Their financial and political clout makes the Rothschilds look pitiful.


The rothschilds don't actually name their business portfolio as 'rothschild bank' or whatever


The world largests banks include Citigroup, HSBC, Barclays, and Bank of America, I think.




posted on Jul, 26 2006 @ 09:31 AM
link   

Originally posted by Peyres

The rothschilds don't actually name their business portfolio as 'rothschild bank' or whatever


Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you suggesting that the Rothschilds control the Bank of England through front companies? If so what are these companies?

I am genuinely baffled by the fact that some people think the Rothschilds somehow control the BoE, as they clearly don't. It seems like one of those things that someone put on a website and then it was endlessly repeated until it gets quoted as "fact". Much of the guff surrounding the "NWO" conspiricy seems to be of that order - closer to collaborative fiction than anything.



posted on Jul, 26 2006 @ 05:26 PM
link   
Where did I mention the Rothschilds control the Bank of England? I'm just as curious as you are. I THINK they had a hand in setting it up, but not actually controlling it at this very moment.

You made a claim that they aren't particularly powerful, with Goldman Sachs being larger. The Rothschilds have lots of front companies. They have their fingers in a lot of pies, and so the cumulative asset worth of them is probably staggering.

[edit on 26-7-2006 by Peyres]



posted on Jul, 27 2006 @ 03:36 AM
link   


am genuinely baffled by the fact that some people think the Rothschilds somehow control the BoE, as they clearly don't. It seems like one of those things that someone put on a website and then it was endlessly repeated until it gets quoted as "fact". Much of the guff surrounding the "NWO" conspiricy seems to be of that order - closer to collaborative fiction than anything.


That's what most people said when alex jones talked about a great disaster from terrorist 4 days before septmber 11, or the fact that people said the war in afganistan was a pretext for a war in Iraq or the fact that Iran was next on the list, most people say that that is bullocks even now, anybody noticeses how Iran is the guilty party for what hesbollah and Isreal do?
Wonder how long it will takes for you to realise that maybe this fictional NWO is probably real.



posted on Jul, 27 2006 @ 07:48 AM
link   

Originally posted by Patronas
That's what most people said when alex jones talked about a great disaster from terrorist 4 days before septmber 11, or the fact that people said the war in afganistan was a pretext for a war in Iraq or the fact that Iran was next on the list, most people say that that is bullocks even now, anybody noticeses how Iran is the guilty party for what hesbollah and Isreal do?
Wonder how long it will takes for you to realise that maybe this fictional NWO is probably real.


What has any of that got to do with the Rothschilds and their apparent control of the BoE? I asked specific questions about assertions that were made and have yet to receive any kind of answer to them.



posted on Jul, 27 2006 @ 08:50 AM
link   
A little bit of patience. I don't always have the time to reply to all the threads I'm involved in on ATS. But it involves Nathan Rothschild and the Napoleanic wars.

I'll post more in detail soon.

[edit on 27-7-2006 by TheBandit795]



posted on Jul, 27 2006 @ 11:20 AM
link   

Originally posted by TheBandit795
A little bit of patience.

Sorry, I was just slightly frustrated with people posting generalities unsupported by evidence.



But it involves Nathan Rothschild and the Napoleanic wars.

I'll post more in detail soon.

I will start looking into that area as well then.

To be honest the Rothschilds are a fascinating subject and looking at their history I'm sure they might have been involved in more conspiricies and intrigue than I have had hot dinners (the financing of the Suez canal looks especially interesting).

What I find silly is the belief that they somehow control the world, or even the world finance systems. Their financial and political power has declined enormously in the last 150 years and they are nothing like the force they once were. The French socialist government took their bank out of their hands and nationalised it in 1982, which might give you an indication of their relative power, or lack of it.



posted on Jul, 27 2006 @ 12:09 PM
link   
This is what happened.

Nathan Rotschild had his people watching the battle of Waterloo and they realize that Napoleon was losing the battle and the war. If the British lost, the stock exchange in London would crash and the investors would all lose a lot of money. Nathan Rothschild knew the outcome of the war in advance, although it was still a bit of a gamble, because his courier left (Waterloo) when Napoleon was losing badly, not when the battle was over. So with that in mind, and knowing that the courier of the Duke of Wellington would arrive the day after, Nathan went to the stock exchange with a somber look on his face, and leaned against the the pillar where is always known to be at everyday. Then he and his agents started selling all of his bonds, causing people to panic and start to sell theirs, which of course caused the stocks to lose a lot of their value. They thought that he knew that England had lost.

But secretly he had his agent start to buy up all of those cheap bonds, which caused him to own more and more of the Bank of England stock as well. At the end of that day, he owned much more than he did in the morning. Too little, too late. The London investors were scammed.

There's more info here:

www.ojczyzna.pl...



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 01:37 PM
link   

Originally posted by TheBandit795
But secretly he had his agent start to buy up all of those cheap bonds, which caused him to own more and more of the Bank of England stock as well. At the end of that day, he owned much more than he did in the morning. Too little, too late. The London investors were scammed.

There's more info here:

www.ojczyzna.pl...

Thank you for the information. If it actually happened it sounds like a classic case of using insider knowledge to manipulate a market; as has been going on since the dawn of modern capatilism. However still can't see how any of this supports the assertion that the Rothschilds control the current BoE. Although the Bank at this time had private investment that did not mean the investors controlled it - it was not a normal company and it's actions were governed by a complex web of legislation.

In 1946 the BoE was nationalised and all private investment removed, it was directly owned and controlled by the government. How exactly did the Rothschilds maintain their control?? Not that I have seen any evidence that they ever controlled it in the first place. In 1997 the BoE was made independent from the government to set monetary policy with an aim to stop short term political interference.

The link you provided has some interesting little stories, but that is all they are. The author gives no references for his sources and nothing in the way of foot notes or index. As a piece of historical analysis it is worthless. For example he states:



By the end of the 19th century, one expert estimated that the Rothschild family controlled half the wealth of the world

And the "expert" is? He wrote this where? It also suggests that all the other experts think this is a load of dingo's kidneys.

This exactly what I meant by someone writing something on a website, or in an unsourced book, and then everyone repeating it until it is "fact", when really it is nonsense.



posted on Jul, 28 2006 @ 04:02 PM
link   
Well that website is an actual copy paste of the script from a documentary. The book is called the "Money MAsters". And the co-author is Patrick S. J. Carmack, you can see his info at the bottom of the page, or here. That's why I linked to it. And I've also read about or seen the same story in different places. But you're right. It doesn't mean that they control the BoE right now. Although IMO the evidence of that should be out there somewhere.



new topics

top topics



 
0
<< 1   >>

log in

join