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Originally posted by Nygdan
We're certainly not going to close a threat because it is unpopular, or because unpopular sentiments have been expressed, or because people have, probably unintentionally, used hate monger sites in the course of the discussion.
And certainly, its not, in and of itself, anti-semitic to wonder if Israel should even exist in the first place, or what the repurcussions of its existence are.
Indeed, the discussion has shown that, despite the original claims to the contrary, eliminating Israel will not solve the world's problems.
Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.
The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.
After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.
The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that.
That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost.
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
Originally posted by Beachcoma
[...]You think Muslims from, I dunno, say Funan in China went all the way to the mid-east thousands of years ago to fight Israel (which mind you didn't exist for thousands of years)?
Muslims in China Thousands of years ago ????? ROFL !!!
China has existed for 4 thousands years ... at least, the Islamic religion only showed up a "couple" of thousands of years later... Study some History and stop making a fool of yourself. Wanna have your brainwashed, choose a better subject.
You know NOTHING about Islamic History, so Study it, before you walk around spreading nonsense and anti-semitic hate.
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
Israel has been under Islamic attack for thousands of years..[...]
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
[You know NOTHING about Islamic History, so Study it, before you walk around spreading nonsense and anti-semitic hate.[...]
Originally posted by Communication_Burger
I was just wondering if anyone could clarify something for me; Does the Israeli Parliament building, called 'The Knesset" have these words over the entrance?
'Compassion towards a non-Jew is forbidden, if you see him fall into a river or face danger, you are prohibited from saving him because all the nations are enemies of the Jews and when a non-Jew falls into a ditch, the Jew should close the ditch on him with a big boulder, until he dies, so that the enemies will lose one person and the Jews will be able to preserve their dream of the Promised Land, the Greater Israel!'
A world without Israel? Damn fine with me.
Originally posted by tom goose
More blood has been spilled in the name of god than all other conflicts put together.
Originally posted by centurion1211
This thread is just the 'new bar in town' for all the anti-Israel and (closet?) anti-semites to hang out at.
"Wouldn't the world be better without Israel or the Jews?" has been asked for centuries, as if that alone would make all the world's problems go away.
No, the solution to the world's problems would be to make the people that hate go away - including the ones hiding out in this thread.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Can you believe this guy/girl?
Wow. Ha ha ha, this was really funny. I LOVE how you ignored the Christian persecution of Jews, including the Christian slaughter of Jews during the Crusade. You would have us all believe that them A-rabs are the only ones who have killed Jews.
I guess you've never heard of encyclopedias, huh? Or you missed it where the Zionists THEMSELVES mention Zionism. Get real.
I'm DEFINITELY sure you're unaware that very rich Jews helped fund the evil Nazis you railed agaisnt in that tirade (not to mention that the group who was supposed to rescue the Jews dying in Europe wouldn't do it with their own cake...)
Originally posted by Beachcoma
You know NOTHING about Islamic History, so Study it, before you walk around spreading nonsense and anti-semitic hate.[...]
Originally posted by BeachcomaIf you want to discuss "muslim" terrorists in the Philippines or Indonesia, we can start a new thread on that.
Originally posted by Beachcoma Shall I show(PM) you where YOU spout bigoted and possibly racist remarks about muslims?
Originally posted by warthog911
this is not an anti sematic but anti zionist.I am not blaming jews but zionist.The jews have been taken over by zionists.The entire israeli[jews] pulblic has been held ransom by thier govt(zionists,rotchchilds)
There is no such thing as Israel...British and yes Rothschilds created it. Now there is a Shalem. Whats that saying in the Bible,,,those who curse Israel will be cursed. I see alot of folks not cursed and doggin Israel daily many rabbis and true followers of the Torah in the mix.
Imagine a world without : My God is bigger and better than your God or Im smarter than you, better looking,,,on and on.
Perhaps a world without critizism and nothing but praise, we are probably too far gone for that I guess.
Originally posted by brill
I find this thread interesting personally because it's amusing to see how jewish supporters get their panties in a knot when there's any type of mention of the jewish state in a negative sense, even hypothetically. To think that anyone here is actually advocating the removal of jews (ie. genocide) is laughable at best and a clear display of ignorance.
brill
[edit on 22-7-2006 by brill]
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
Originally posted by BeachcomaIf you want to discuss "muslim" terrorists in the Philippines or Indonesia, we can start a new thread on that.
Exactly my point... there are just too many sentences with "muslim" and "terrorist" in it ... too many countries falling victims to it... too many ppl dying because of it...so how is that beeing a biggot ? I'm just stating facts .. sorry but it's not my fault, these ppl give a bad name to themselves, and use their own ppl as shields.
The expression "muslim terrorists" comes because of the REligion theybased themselves on... maybe they should be called "Islamic Terrorists" ... you can change the name all you want, but the ....
Originally posted by BaastetNoir
Originally posted by Beachcoma Shall I show(PM) you where YOU spout bigoted and possibly racist remarks about muslims?
Oh no hun.. you don't have to PM me, you can post it right here ... in fact i think you have asked me that before, and i'm still waiting. I stand by any word i type, no problem there
Originally posted by truthseeka
Jensouth, that is some amazing info.