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Originally posted by xEphon
Remember a few weeks ago when Isreali killed 7 people on the palestinian beach which caused Hamas to end their cease-fire??
www.cnn.com...
[edit on 20-7-2006 by xEphon]
Buzzwords plague discussion of the Middle East conflict. For too long the buzzword phrase was the so-called “occupied territories.” But today the new buzzword is “disproportionate response,” meaning that Israel is being admonished to not overreact to an act of war by her enemies.
Today the buzzword crowd seems more concerned about restraining Israel than in defeating the Islamic terrorists
visit source to read the (excellent) full article
If we are to take this line of argument to its logical conclusion, then whenever a party kills one of your citizens, the "proportionate" response is to kill one of his in return. Leftists typically bemoan a "spiral of violence" in the Middle East, but obviously according to these international law "experts," a cycle of violence is not only a bad idea, it is the law!
A proportionate response to abuses of international law
Originally posted by Denied
"Disproportional" sounds a sad word for the total destruction of Lebanon.?
Israel has continued its campaign of air strikes with war planes bombing more than 40 targets, mainly in southern parts of Beirut in the early hours of Friday.
Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said the number of Lebanese killed in the 10 days of violence is now more than 330.
Thirty-four Israelis have been killed in the fighting, including 15 civilians killed by rockets fired by Hezbollah into Israel
Source.
U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland will travel to Beirut, hoping to win agreement to create safe routes into Lebanon for relief convoys.
* The Red Cross sent 22 tons of food and supplies, along with a nutritionist and a surgeon, from Beirut to Tyre, Lebanon, on Friday, according to the international relief agency.
No it didn't. As they kidnapped the soldiers they fired rockets and mortor rounds into Israel. That's what started this whole thing. This is common knowledge.
Originally posted by Implosion
Originally posted by Denied
"Disproportional" sounds a sad word for the total destruction of Lebanon.?
I take your point, and understand where you are coming from, but when you see Images such as these, than the word "Disproportional" does seem to fit rather well.
Isreal is being bombarded by rockets coming from Lebanon.
Isreal's gets information that the leaders of Hizbollah are in a certain part of Beruit and other factions of them are in other parts of Beruit. Hizbollah leadership and forces are hiding cowardly among innocent people in a city. So, do you let them stay there safe and continue the attack on your country, or do you decide to take them out and prevent further attacks on your citizens.
So they bomb where they think the threat is coming from against its citizens.
Isn't that what you hope your country would do for you?
[edit on 22-7-2006 by Keyhole]
Originally posted by Keyhole
So they bomb where they think the threat is coming from against its citizens.
Isn't that what you hope your country would do for you?
As U.S. missionaries are reported safe, Lebanese Baptists describe suffering
For the first time, a July 19 attack targeted one of Beirut's Christian enclaves. Nobody was reported killed or injured in the attack, which reportedly struck well-drilling equipment parked in a lot.
Costa, the Lebanese Baptist leader, said in his July 19 communication that "New areas [of Beirut] were hit early this morning and at noon today -- both being areas where there are no Hizballa presence. Rationale? No one knows!"
You have voted neformore for the Way Above Top Secret award.
Originally posted by marg6043
Well the problem is that while targeting Hezbollah militants Israel attacks are also bringing casualties into the Lebanese population that has nothing to do with Hezbollah.
Going in full force into a country just to target one group could be seen as to excessive by some.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Your link proves that it may hapen while nothing is hapening at present time, dont make predictions of the future.
Where are the red cross points, that food never got to the people, israely air jets just bomb everything coming from any point.
Yes it did, and only after the boming of the international airports, I guess the pictures from above show clear that the whole city is in ruble and that this atack
is way about comon sence.
The crisis was sparked when Hamas militants kidnapped Israeli soldier Cpl. Gilad Shalit three weeks ago, prompting Israel to launch a military offensive against the Gaza Strip. Hezbollah guerrillas then carried out a cross-border raid last Wednesday, kidnapping a further two Israeli soldiers and launching rockets and mortar bombs at towns in northern Israel and outposts in the disputed Shabaa Farms area.
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
As are as the throwing rocks, and IRA comparisons.....LOL!!
This is starting to be hillarious!
They're not throwing rocks, just to throw rocks. They're throwing rocks to wipe you off the planet. If someone was throwing rocks at you desperately trying to kill you, what would you do? Just stand there??
No! Don't be silly. You'd stop them!
The IRA's goal is political in nature. Their goal is not annihilation so the situations are dealt with differently....
[edit on 22-7-2006 by ThatsJustWeird]
Originally posted by neformore
Oh dear.
I feel sorry for you.
You aren't intelligent enough to understand the comparison I made.
I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to pity you.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Remember when that story was later debunked becaused it turned out that the people were killed by a land mine placed on the beach by palestinians to keep Israeli commandos from coming ashore there?
Originally posted by neformore
Oh dear.
I feel sorry for you.
You aren't intelligent enough to understand the comparison I made.
I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to pity you.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by xEphon
Remember a few weeks ago when Isreali killed 7 people on the palestinian beach which caused Hamas to end their cease-fire??
www.cnn.com...
[edit on 20-7-2006 by xEphon]
Remember when that story was later debunked becaused it turned out that the people were killed by a land mine placed on the beach by palestinians to keep Israeli commandos from coming ashore there?
article
Originally posted by xEphon
I really dont know, but I would hardly call it 'debunked'.
Afterall, what was the IDF firing artillery into Palestine during a time of cease fire anyway!?
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
The structures that are being targeted (not saying that other non targeted structures haven't been hit as you can see) in Lebonan are essential to Hezbollah and it's operations. If you were fighting a war against a group that was trying to completely destroy you, what would you do? Wouldn't you go after everything that they need to continue their operations?
sucks for Lebanon, but that's their and the UN's fault for not dealing with Hezbollah sooner.
Funny how that question is never answered and I know it probably won't get answered this time. If someone was trying to wipe you out, how would you react and what would you do?