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Originally posted by ceci2006
Judging from the skeptical and cynical looks on the faces of the audience, he has a long way to go .....
On this board??? YES. Amazing huh? For a 'deny ignorance' theme it (the board
in general) really only sees what it wants to see when it comes to Bush43.
Originally quoted by Retinoid Receptor
Reparations are not for victims of the Jim Crow's laws, it is for the great great grandchildren of slaves. Even if it was for the people living during the Jim Crow laws, they shouldn't get reparations, Jewish people get it from Germany, because it 1)happened to them, 2)all their belongings, savings, and things of value were confiscated, 3)most of their family were killed. The Japanese in internment camps is the same way, minus #3.
I am not saying we shouldn't learn about this part of US history, but I have used this term numerous times, it should not be shoved down our throats. Meaning, black history month is enough. If Jews and the Japanese and Chinese and Mexicans and Irish all wanted to "teach" us all about there plights in America and the world as much as black people did, it would be overwhelming our calendar.
And not because they are the only people involved in those type of things, but minorities have a much higher jail rate, and if you go into most bad neighborhoods, you tend to notice basically black and some degree spanish people. And if there is a even near amount of racism, some of these neighborhoods riot and destroy their neighborhoods. People look down on people like that, and subconsciously equate it with black people. It isn't because white people are all racist, it is because actions and the way many black people do things makes white people turned off. I know when I have been called racist or anti semitic I have been turned off by both cultures or whatever, and I am Jewish!
There is one thing minorities have that white people don't. They can call someone racist, and woah, it turns out to be a problem. You'll get the NAACP calling, staging things, etc. I am not saying they are bad, I am saying they go overkill. Again, increasing racism. I know you must notice that unless you live under a rock or you just don't want to admit it.
Can you explain to me about the African American terminology? Why can't black people be called blacks? Why aren't white people called European American? My best friend hates that terminology because he says that he doesn't like being equated with 'African Americans', and he isn't one, because his family is from St. Lucia. I don't understand, please explain as I am curious, thanks.
Is there a double standard in the work place? Well yes. Like I said, it is easier for minorities to get lower income jobs and regular jobs. I mean, people who own businesses get bulletins making sure you have enough minorities. Not to mention you can get tax write off's. But in big business, especially dealing with international companies, they don't want to hire black people. Many in Europe, Middle East, Asia, don't like black people. They aren't use to them. It is like Bush sending Condi to the Middle East, well that is the worst person he could send. She is black and a woman...? People there don't respect either.
So in a closing note, I really didn't want to discuss this because it isn't important to me, but I want things to be more balanced. I want to not be blamed for black people's problems because I am white. I don't believe in reparations, I think it is a joke. And I believe that most of the time when people call others racist, it is much ado about nothing. And I believe affirmative action to be racist and stupid.
As a question to you: most advanced classes in school and good grades are made by predominately (not only) whites/asians. While lower classes usually have much more minorities. Why is that to you? Is it because of white people? Or is it because minorities don't believe they can do it? I think it is the latter. I think the NAACP should instill in the black community that they can make something of themselves, you know like that song "I know I can, be what I wanna be, If I work hard at it, I can be where I wanna be". I am just curious as to your thoughts.
Originally posted by ceci2006
systematically disenfranchised by the system for over 500 years (and nearly two hundred years since Emancipation) ....
Originally posted by Durden
then get off your behind and start posting.
Whining about it ....
Do they deserve reparations now?
It's too late. Our calendar is already filled.
Well, there was an important "riot" in American history. It was the "Boston Tea Party". Angry whites poured the tea of other whites into Boston Harbor.
Especially about Cynthia McKinney.
If your friend doesn't like to be called African-American, then, simply call your friend Black.
So how qualified does she truly have to be? Does she have to also win the Nobel Peace Prize?
You don't have to be. I'm not blaming you or other white people
As for reparations, it's a joke only to those that aren't sensitive to the suffering to others. If you were a Holocaust survivor, you wouldn't think it was much of a joke, would you?
However, people do not like it because they feel that "less qualified" people are taking the place of good deserving ones.
I know of many Blacks who have Masters degrees, Ph.D's and are doctors and lawyers. They also have double degrees, own businesses and make nice lives for themselves. They also head agencies as well as figure into the corporate landscape. They have written books, painted and sculpted as well as traveled the world. Some know Latin. Others know four or five languages like Dr. Rice. They are very sophisticated and dignified people with wonderful kids, too. And (*gasp*)their kids go to private school!
But even they have to deal with the stereotypes continued by yourself and other people who mainly think that Black people are one type of way. And it's a shame.
But maybe they wouldn't have to if you and others who think like you would meet them half-way and treat them as individuals instead of lumping them into an entire community.
And if you have suggestions for the NAACP, why don't you go to your local chapter and tell this to them? Or, volunteer in a Black community and bestow your knowledge of success on the kids around you.
Nothing will ever change if you sit back and complain. And that is all you are doing.
I never said you were racist. I answered your questions. You are entitled to your views as I am entitled to mine.
But I do have a question to ask. Why are you so concentrated on what the Black community does? And why do you care? And how did you get these facts?
Did you research every school in the United States and survey every student in advanced classes?
Did you ask every Black person and Latino person about their habits, social practices, histories and cultures?
Do you entirely spend your time in a predominately minority community to get this information for academic study?
Or are you just saying what you dredged up from the media and politicians?
Stereotypes can often turn into facts if one makes them so.
And I'm serious. If you care about tolerance and achievement, do something to make people's lives better. Work on being more tolerant and bringing about more equality for everyone.
If you do care about the scholastic levels of Black children, tutor or mentor Black kids so they can also be in that class amongst the predominately White and asian students if you care so much about the Black community's achievement.
Well how else can one race who has been systematically disenfranchised by the system for over 500 years (and nearly two hundred years since Emancipation) find an advocate in American society--especially when that society has been hostile to their social progress to the point of passing laws?
Who would speak for them if having such a group is racist?
Name one group that isn't racist that will fulfill these qualifications for helping those who are disenfranchised because of racial animus and bias.
Originally posted by dgtempe
i think he may have taken some cocktail= A little upper, a little downer
Originally posted by dgtempe
I am about to be overly dramatic here now...Ready??
i am refering to the "Mania"..... seeing him so hyped
I wish just once we'd get an even-toned speech.
Originally quoted by RetinoidReceptor
Oh I am sorry that is just responding to me talking about black society. And also it is responding to me calling the NAACP racist (which I did not).
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
He was definitely politically motivated. Personally I really dislike the NAACP, and Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and the likes. Martin Luther King was good, but these organizations and demonstrators, just increases racism. Let's forget about that, many of them ARE racist.