Salute Israel for their tactics

I have no made any posts to this topic but do wish to be included as it is a very strong topic. I wish to salute Israeli leadership for taking the bull by the horns to speak and trample upon their enemies. I hope and pray each day that he IDF does not lose many of its ppl and that they remain a thorn in the side of evil doers. Dear God i wish to pray for peace for Israel, in Thy name i ask Amen.

Originally posted by Snazuolu
I have no made any posts to this topic but do wish to be included as it is a very strong topic. I wish to salute Israeli leadership for taking the bull by the horns to speak and trample upon their enemies. I hope and pray each day that he IDF does not lose many of its ppl and that they remain a thorn in the side of evil doers. Dear God i wish to pray for peace for Israel, in Thy name i ask Amen.

Pass me a vomit bag please.

Clearly we can see yet again, the Talmud in full effect:

The Truth About the Talmud

Yebamoth 98a: All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b: Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail!", Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said.

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").

Well that certainly explains much.

And I bet I can get a hold on more events such as this.

I wonder how many Israelis today follow the Talmud - how many soldiers, how many generals, how many civilians, how many politicians, how many members here?

Well let's explore some more, shall we?

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Errrrrrrrrrrrr.... WHAT?

Well it sure looks to me, that people who take this kind of CRAP seriously, are severly mentally disturbed, racist, pedophiles.

A Jew many have sex with a child as longas the child is less then NINE?

HOW SICK IS THAT?

Just for You my dear friend Judah Priest.

So that people see what kind of Teachings Judaism has.

ALL HAIL RACIST PEDOPHILES! - I mean Israel.

you must learn to let go of your hatred souljah. The Jews are good ppl, They have been chosen by God himself. I will pray for you today my friend.

Originally posted by Snazuolu
you must learn to let go of your hatred souljah. The Jews are good ppl, They have been chosen by God himself. I will pray for you today my friend.

CHOSEN BY GOD?

Which one is that?

Abraham?

Allah?

Buddha?

Yes, please pray for me - and I will drink a beer in your name too.

Actually, have you something to add to the Talmud quotes?

I didn't think so...

umm your source reveals everything about your intent here, which is to slander the Jewish people.

Originally posted by Souljah
Yebamoth 98a: All gentile children are animals.

It doesnt say that at all. this part of the Talmud is talking about laws reguarding the status as Jews of children of a Jew and a non-jew or the children of a convert. It is asking the question are they Jewish? It says nothing about gentile children being animals or any such thing, that is just made up


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Originally posted by Souljah
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

This comes from a mistraslation of the word Daas to mean intercourse but it actually means understanding. So the passage simply says that Adam understood the spiritual nature of all of the animals int he garden. Says nothing about sex at all. That is someone elses sick idea.

Originally posted by Souljah
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

That is absolutely not waht it says. This is a total perversion and is against the Torah. What is does say is that if someone does rape a child that the child is not held guilty and is still condidered a virgin.
This verse is specifically concerned with the act of sodomy, which carried the death penalty at this time in history. The cerse is saying that they child is not guilty of anything so he is not to be put to death since he is a child. However, the rapist is to be put to death.

Originally posted by Souljah
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

This verse means that if a child is raped by a man then she is still considered a virgin. So that when she is older and wants to marry it is considered that she never had sex. It is sick how some people would twist that to mean something completely different.


So Souljah, I have refuted your stupid claims here. Just because you read something on a website about how sick Jews are doesnt make them true. It only makes you look foolish when you claim to know what is in someone elses holy texts and then mistraslate them. Geez.. If you are gonna argue with Jewish people about what their own books say, then I suggest you learn some basic hebrew.


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Souljah,
You ignorant fool. I have provided you links in attempt that you will be able to educate yourself out of that ignorant pit in which you live in. This is normally typical Arab hatemongering rhetoric that is based on a ignorant grasp of texts of which the Koran plagerized.
so here we go:

Since You will not make an effort to read the TRUTH about this particular quote I will bring it for you and your likes:

5-Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

False. It does not say this.

What is at issue in this passage is the status of the children of a Gentile woman who converts to Judaism. Essentially, it finds a legal loophole which makes it clear that her children will carry no stigma from having had an uncircumcised father.

Such statements do not exist. On this page the Talmud considers whether converts are considered relatives of their biological kin from the point of view of enforcing upon them the strictures of Jewish law regarding forbidden marriages. The Talmud quotes one lenient opinion (in the end rejected) to the effect that these strictures should not apply to converts because their blood relationship before marriage is not considered to carry over to their new status as Jews. In the manner of the agada this ruling was pinned on the verse in Ezekiel (23;20) "... for their flesh is as the flesh of donkeys ..." referred to in item above. Refer to the discussion under that heading for more details on the use of this verse and the way it is applied to Jews as well as to non-Jews.

7) Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

The Sages suspected that the nations of Babylon and Rome were heavily into bestiality, and the 20th century historians back them up.

In any case, it was this issue which the Talmud presented as the reason for discouraging Jewish children playing with Babylonian or Roman children they feared they would end up partners in their neighbors' immorality.

Misquote. That's from the Mishna again, which reads in full: "One should not place cattle in heathens' inns, because they are suspected of immoral practice with them."

Refers to certain Greek and Roman inns that indeed had such a reputation (not undeservedly so). The Gemara goes on to explain this and cite a few examples. The whole point under discussion is whether cattle placed in
such inns can be considered kosher. No general statement about the sexual preferences of non-Jews is made.

Tractate Avoda Zara (literally Tractate Idol Worship) deals with relations with pagans and idol worshippers, particularly those who still engaged in barbaric and immoral behavior. Such behavior is prohibited to all people and Jews are not allowed to aid or facilitate such immoral behavior.

In Avoda Zara 22a-22b there is a discussion concerning whether animals could be left in the care of pagans for safekeeping in cases where there was a suspicion that the pagans would engage in sexual relations with such
animals. The text quotes several sages who witnessed such grossly immoral behavior and the statement is made that 'they [such pagans] prefer .. animals ... to their wives'. These sages ruled that it was therefore forbidden to leave animals in the care of pagans.
The general conclusion of the Talmud is that despite such isolated cases of sodomy there was no reason even to suspect that the pagans would engage in such crudities.

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Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

CLAIM (43)
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

RESPONSE (1)
This is a famous misinterpretation of the passage, as the word "Daas" is interpreted sometimes as intercourse but it really means "understanding". So the real explanation is that he came to understand their spiritual existence and thus he called them proper names.
E.S./Edited David S. Maddison ([email protected])

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

The accusation here is quite nefarious. It implies that Judaism permits pedophilia, has no respect for women, and generally advocates loose sexual morals. To those familiar with the Talmud, this claim is patently ridiculous. However, the majority of people — particularly those making this claim — know little to nothing about the Talmud, its contents, or its methodology.

The accusation here is quite nefarious. It implies that Judaism permits pedophilia, has no respect for women, and generally advocates loose sexual morals. To those familiar with the Talmud, this claim is patently ridiculous.


In general what is discussed here is her capacity to be married. In ancient times fathers would sell their child for dowery to a husband, therefore in essence, saving her for her husband when she comes of age.

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

RESPONSE (1)
False. It doesn't say that.

Leviticus says that if a man lies with another man, both must be killed. What Sanhedrin 54b says is that if one of the participants is under nine years old, he is not considered a "man" - and so it is not required that the child be put to death.

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Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

This is not what is written in this passage. It deals with the virginity of a girl whose Hymen was torn. Sorry nice try.

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Jewish Priests must marry virgins according to Jewish law. This whole passage speaks of this issue and also investigates aspects of unnatural occurances. The passage also brings up an issue that was handled at the time when a woman was cleaning the house and a dog confronted her from behind. Her virginity was compromised but because it was unnatural she was allowed to marry a priest.

So now since all your anti-Jewish, hatemongering, idiotic, Islamobabble, slander was dealt with I would suggest you handle this with a bit more intelligence - investigate for yourself before you post such crap.

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...And the truth shall set you free

The Talmud, the Jewish book of law, contains among other little gems, the following: "Just the Jews are humans, the non-Jews are no humans, but cattle" (Kerithuth 6b, page 78, Jebhammoth 61); "The non-Jews have been created to serve the Jews as Slaves" (Midrasch Talpioth 225); "Sexual intercourse with non-Jews is like sexual intercourse with animals" (Kethuboth 3b); "The non-Jews have to be avoided, even more than sick pigs" (Orach Chaiim 57, 6a); "The birth rate of non- Jews has to be suppressed massively" (Zohar II, 4b); "As you replace lost cows and donkeys, so you shall replace non-Jews" (Lore Dea 377,1). And so it goes on and on. So how often do the "anti-racist" protestors demonstrate outside Talmudic events? Never. Exactly.

The irony is that the racism of extreme Jews and the racism of Adolf Hitler are both based on a colossal myth. As Alfred M. Lilienthal, the Jewish writer and researcher, said:

"There is no reputable anthropologist who will not agree that Jewish racialism is as much poppycock as Aryan racialism. As far back as 1938, the Americana nthropological Association, at it's annual conference in New York, condemned Aryanism as a fallacy and stated that both 'Aryan' and 'Semitic' were linguistic terms without any racial significance...

"...Anthropological science divides mankind into three recognised races: negro, mongolian and oriental, and Caucasian or white (although some authorities refer to a fourth race - the australoids)... Members of the Jewish faith are found in all three races and subdivisions."

The conditioned thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind have repeatedly created the physical reality of oppression, prejudice, and racism which matches the pattern - the expectation - programmed into their collective psyche. They expect it; they create it. When Jewish people as a whole break free from the mind control of their hierarchy and start to let go of those feelings of fear and expectation of prejudice, they will stop attracting such experiences to them. When they openly reject the inherited view of racial superiority, those patterns will disperse from their magnetic cape/aura, and they will cease to attract racism to them.

Well sorry mates - but I trust the words of Mister David ICKE before any of your drivel in second. Funny thing is, that you seem to attack me, to be Ignorant Fool, hatemonger, idiot, Islamobabble and other Infantile crap - but somehow, you avoided to defend the Quote made by the Might Jewish Rabbi Yaacov Perrin - clearly heavily influenced by Talbmud Racist Drivel - saying that "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail!". How come? You agree with this Racist statement, which only prooves one thing, which is Israeli Apartheird towards Arab/Muslim population?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Oh, and one more thing my Dear Judah Priest - I think insulting a fellow member (in this case Moi) is against the Rules of This board. But I guess if you are Jewish, you can get away with it - as usual.

So go ahead, label me whateverthefunkyouwant - I rather be in the Anti-Semitic-Book alonside with Mister David Icke then to agree with you Racists and Pedophiles.

Now go run to the nearest Anti-Defamation League or B'nai B'rith Office to file your Complaint against Souljah.

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Souljah,

I have encountered many people in my life. If there is one thing I learned is that a person so full of hate is a punishment to himself. Therefore you are your own worst punishment. Live in your blind hatred.

Regarding Baruch Goldstein:
Since this is a conspiracy board you do know that there is a conspiracy on this subject which actually exonerates him - I will not get into that since I do not believe it. Goldstein was an extremist I know this for a fact. I also know that, like every text the Talmud, Torah, Koran and the New Testament can be interpreted in different ways. Meir Kahane and Baruch Goldstein both subscribed to a racist interpretation which holds a minority standing amongst Jews. If it hadn't there would have been thousands of dead and not hundreds in this round of violence.
So far in Israel there where 2-4 Jewish terrorists who bombed and/or killed Arab civilians - all are dead or in prison. How many Arab terrorists are there? How many are free? How many are in prison?

If you wish to make the Israelis racists look first at the Arabs and Muslims. Their daily acts and statements show just how racist they are.
Just today Ahmedinajad released another pearl of wisdom.

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi

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I'd prefer to see you commenting on what he quoted rather than attacking him personally. There's no need to do so . Don't avoid the issue we're talkign about, in the way you do, or reflect it on the other party. He didn't quote Ahmedinejad this time.

Originally posted by Souljah


"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail!", Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said.

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Originally posted by Souljah
Well sorry mates - but I trust the words of Mister David ICKE before any of your drivel in second.

Of course you do!! Its only too easy to sit there and let someone else tell you what to think instead of reading the Talmud for yourself isnt it? Way to deny ignorance!! LOL

Originally posted by Souljah

Funny thing is, that you seem to attack me, to be Ignorant Fool, hatemonger, idiot, Islamobabble and other Infantile crap - but somehow, you avoided to defend the Quote made by the Might Jewish Rabbi Yaacov Perrin - clearly heavily influenced by Talbmud Racist Drivel - saying that "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail!". How come? You agree with this Racist statement, which only prooves one thing, which is Israeli Apartheird towards Arab/Muslim population?

Actually I dont agree with this statement. It is a racist statement made by one man. He does not represent the opinion of Jewish people as a whole and he does not represent the general feeling towards non-Jews expressed in the Torah or the Talmud.

Originally posted by Souljah

So go ahead, label me whateverthefunkyouwant - I rather be in the Anti-Semitic-Book alonside with Mister David Icke then to agree with you Racists and Pedophiles.

Now go run to the nearest Anti-Defamation League or B'nai B'rith Office to file your Complaint against Souljah.

So it doesnt matter to you that the quotes you provided proved to be false? If the truth doesnt matter and you are not willing to challenge yourself and look past your hate then I have nothing further to say to you. Its like talking to a wall.

this is shocking cant belive people actuily condon the death of hundreds with some an entire race

salute to Israel they are becoming what their parents/grandparents had to endure from the nazis.

great topic
i hope one day you and your family dont have to endure the pain the lebonease and palistian families go through on a 24/7 basis

Originally posted by Mdv2

Originally posted by JudahMaccabbi

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I'd prefer to see you commenting on what he quoted rather than attacking him personally. There's no need to do so

. Don't avoid the issue we're talkign about, in the way you do, or reflect it on the other party. He didn't quote Ahmedinejad this time.

Originally posted by Souljah


"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail!", Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said.

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OK, I'll oblige.

Who is Yaacov Perrin? Ever heard of him aside from his statement in 1994? Anyone? Can anyone find a bio of him? Who is he? Aside from this on statement no-one woud have heard of him. WHY? Beause he is a no-one.

What do I think? I do not want good Israelis to be hurt in this conflict. I do not want innocent Arabs to be killed either. I have Arab family members and work associates. On the other hands I would not shed a tear if the bulk of Hizbullah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad are killed.

Yaacov Perrin is a no-one so what he said in Baruch Goldstein's funeral is irrelevant.

It's come to the Major's attention, that certain things may be getting misrepresented here.

Originally posted by Souljah

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Bile and drivel removed.

Quite an interesting source you have there, though I don't believe it's your original
one, but more on that later. Let's examine a little more about the source you did
quote. Michael Hoffman II and his revisionisthistory.org website.

Here's a fine example:

In His Words
The Mouth and Mind of Michael Hoffman II
October 1994

Not only am I not a Jew, I am not an Edomite of any kind, Khazar, Ashkenzai or Yehudi. I am however a connoisseur of the art of jew-jitsu, something you and the other hoaxers will be learning to your sorrow, as you cross swords with me in the future.

...

The S&M camp on the Internet where Khazars undergo all of the mental torments their ancestors fantasize and base our state religion upon (The Holy Shoah-Biz Seance). Here at Auschwitz of the Mind, Khazars whose parents are Survivors, obtain relief from the burden of guilt they would otherwise bear for not having suffered as Uncle Seymour did when Doctor Mengele made a lampshade out of him.

www.nizkor.org...

I'm sure that seems reasonable to you, I wonder if others here at ATS share your "enthusiasm?"

Here's another:

In His Words
The Mouth and Mind of Michael Hoffman II
November 1994

The majority of those masquerading as >>Jews

JudahMaccabbi, thanks for your reply, your answer to my post was exactly as i hoped it would be. Trouble is, posts by yourself and others hasnt reflected the attitude that you do not think that Israel is completely blameless. It is that arrogance that i think is distancing Israel from public opinion sympathy in the current conflict. More balanced reply's like the one you made to my post will earn you more kudo's from me than blatant parochialism.

originally posted by JudahMaccabbi
So you see, I do think Israel made mistakes and are doing wrong with its disengagement plans. All I am saying is in comparison of the two populations the Arabs are so backwards and ethically bankrupt that nothing is expected of them. So it is OK for them to launch rockets on residential areas from residential areas, to use hospitals as command posts, to shoot from schools and mosques, etc. No one is complaining in Europe about this, only that Israel did this or that - by mistake.

But heres the problem, this statement "the Arabs are so backwards and ethically bankrupt that nothing is expected of them." is such a broad generalisation and is blatantly incorrect. There are many good arab's who are not backwards or ethically bankrupt that i can not accept any part of your statement, which devalues any thing else you say.
Apart from a few extreme views from posters on both sides of the fence i dont think anyone here thinks it is ok for hezbollah to launch rockets on residential areas or to use hospitals, schools etc, just as i dont believe it is ok for Israel to continue killing innocent Lebanese citizens, the death toll is still climbing.
Cheers
m4s

mojo4sale,
When I spoke of the Arab backwardness, it is obvious that there are some progressive, educated and peace-loving Arabs. Problem is that their leadership is not like that - Aside from the Jordanian king.

There are massess of ignorant backward people living under Syrian, Palestinian, Egyptian, Saudi and Lebanese rule.

Iran is a vicious regeim that brutally suppresses anyone who democratically opposes them. So in general there are good Arabs 'like you labeled them' but no-one is hearing them and they have no say in political matters.

I refuse to salute Israel after it attacked christian areas. The christian community in Lebanon do not support Hizbollah, so why did Israel target christian areas?

After those two attacks, can someone please explain to me how the American christian right still support Israel?

I dislike how a lot of people are turning this into a discussion of religion rather than terrorism, which is my primary concern. Israel is not targeting christians, muslims, or any other religious group. They are fighting terrorism, just like the USA is. They are taking preventive measures to assure that they will not longer have to put up with Hezbollah's terrorist acts in the future of their country. And I agree with that 100%

Originally posted by laiguana
Israel is not targeting christians, muslims, or any other religious group. They are fighting terrorism, just like the USA is.

Thats 100% bullcrap. Israel has killed more civilians than terrorist. Its bombed areas, which are not even Hizbollah strongholds. And please don't compare what Israel is doing with America, Israel was fighting terrorism when America was still funding terrorist groups around the World.

Originally posted by laiguana
I dislike how a lot of people are turning this into a discussion of religion rather than terrorism, which is my primary concern. Israel is not targeting christians, muslims, or any other religious group. They are fighting terrorism, just like the USA is. They are taking preventive measures to assure that they will not longer have to put up with Hezbollah's terrorist acts in the future of their country. And I agree with that 100%

that is the largest BS i have read on this forum.
if the Israelis where fighting so called terrorists (since hazbullah are considerd terrorists by a few countries) they would only be strikinbg them not destroying an entire countries infrontstructure which is against UN regulations and Laws *for got Israel/US doesnt have to abide by UN laws just the rest of the world is suppose to)

lol out the measures so they dont have to put up with hazbullah rocket attacks,
i guess killing an entire families in a residential area is really attacking hazbullah