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Originally posted by wannabe
Hey guys. I just found this discussion, and I don't wanna get sucked into the argument factor of this debate, so I'm just gonna add my 2 cents and shut up, unless someone answers.
First of all, gays compose less that 5% of the U.S. population right now. If it were a "genetic" thing, and not a disease/choice, wouldn't it be more proliferent? And anyway, within a year ago, scientists declared emphatically that there is no "gay" gene in our genetic structure. There is no natural inclination to be gay. That would be like saying there's a natural desire to do it with your dog. Long story short, gays should'nt marry just because they DECIDE they like their own kind.
Children of gay parents do not turn out as normal adults, just like children of broken homes get screwed up. And BTW, many gays have a common background of neglect and abuse in the home. Take it for what its worth.
I believe the Bible. It states in at least 3 places, including Leviticus and Romans, that homosexual relations with one another are an abomination. That doesn't mean down with gays, it just means gayness is a sin just like having adultery. And a sin is a choice, so I believe that all gays can change.
Even if you don't agree with the big book, you can't argue with history. Sodom and Gomorrah were obviously real cities, because we've found them. And you know why they were destroyed. More importantly, Rome. Rome had conquered almost the entire civilized world, but fell apart and was destroyed. Why? Because their social structure became perverted, including rampant homosexuality.
I say all this only to indicate that gayness is wrong, and will be punished just like all other sins.
upward and onward
Originally posted by ultra_phoenix
Otherwise, the next step will be : " Ooooh, look, I'm a zoophile and I would like to marry my dog. Who want to be my witness ? "
Originally posted by ultra_phoenixAnd don't forget the childrens. For some of you, it's sound stupid and " retrograde ", but a kid need a mother AND a father. Not 2 fathers or 2 mothers.
Originally posted by ultra_phoenixA society need some moral fences, otherwise this society will collapse !
Originally posted by wannabe
Okay, maynard, maybe I was too vague. You're right - it didn't cause the destruction of Rome, but its downfall was marked by increasing violence and increasing immorality - 2 signs of the approaching end of a civilization. Check out history, and look at America's culture. You think what I said is funny? Ok, you tell me how Christianity destroyed Rome.
Originally posted by Tyriffic
...yeeesh. On and on we go.....
Last time I checked, two men/ two women together can not propagate. No bearing of children. Adoption just takes care of the already born.
No bearing of children does not positively effect society.
This is good?
If gays want to continue forever together this is their business. For this union to become legal in all ways and benifits(monetary), I don't believe in it.
What about a women that cannot bear children or a man that is sterile? Should they not be allowed to marry? According to your arguement, they can't bring children into this world so they shouldn't be allowed to marry.