Poll:the reason of why Israel can have the A-bomb and Iran cann't., page 1
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reply posted on 18-7-2006 @ 03:01 AM by Legalizer


reply posted on 19-7-2006 @ 08:40 AM by donwhite
A. None of the above

I should have known a loaded question would have only loaded answers.


posted by benevolent tyrant

“ . . neither Iran or Israel should have "the Bomb" . . to answer this question I would have to answer "none of the above" I think that, of the two choices, Israel can have the bomb because, unlike Iran, they have not gone on record making rash and ignorant statements about destroying anyone . . “ [Edited by Don W]




William Polk, an old guy who worked on the NSC around the mid to late 1960s, said on CSpan2 Sunday, that Israel had 400 to 600 bombs. A US ambassador under Clinton said NK had bomb making materials for 2 bombs in 2000 and may have enough for 6 to 10 today. Back to Polk, he also suggested Iran may have bought a few “loose nukes” at the close of the Soviet Union in 1991, suggesting this current hullabaloo is a cover which will end with Iran announcing it has the bomb!


Iran's very public expression of intended violence does not impress me as being diplomatic or responsible. Iran does not inspire confidence they could control their A-bomb. After all, Iran has already expressed their malicious intent and desire to use the A Bomb against Israel . .




Although I think Israel has made a wrong choice - in frustration - by adopting Sharon’s “unilateral disengagement” policy, as they prefer to call it, I also think we must keep in mind, A) Israel is an newcomer-interloper nation in the area, B) Israel is outnumbered maybe 6 million to 120 million, and C) the issue - Israel’s legitimacy - is deeply intertwined with religion around the world - well, actually in the United States.

America is impelled to assist Israel beyond normal diplomatic rationale because so many Americans (on the right) hold an irrational belief in the forthcoming Battle of Armageddon - end times - and (on the left) a guilty conscience for sitting by during the Holocaust.

It is obvious to me that the world does not need ANY nuclear weapons. OTOH, the regimen required to insure full compliance would have to be draconian lest a dozen “rogue” nations - including the United States - would make bombs on the sly, secretly justified on the short-sighted but widely popular covers-all grounds of “national security.” Hmm? Does that mean mankind is therefore doomed to the slow spread of nuclear weapons around the world?

Surely we can predict the outcome? A dictator will be elected - democracy at work - in sub-Saharan Africa, promising to feed his starving people. He will threaten the US with doom and destruction unless we send them enough food to keep his people from dying. Which forced diversion of agricultural produce will interfere with ADMs long time connection to the US Treasury via ethanol and ADM will declare preemptive war! Yes, we will have privatized everything by then! Including the power to declare war which Congress cannot seem to do - well, since 1941.

Gosh! Maybe we are living in the Last Days after all?



[edit on 7/19/2006 by donwhite]


reply posted on 19-7-2006 @ 10:30 PM by maloy
Both nations deserve to have nuclear bombs. What they do with them is up to them, but I seriously doubt either will ever use such weapons. Iranian president that made the threat to Israel is just a face for the media- not a real leader. He makes no top-priority decisions- they are made by the Mulah counsil. Iran would never go as far as attacking Israel with nuclear weapons (especially with US in between them), nor would Israel. Despite what it seems like, these nations are not ruled by cavemen. Speaking of cavemen...

President Bush (who is in control of largest nuclear arsenal in the world) made threats about the Axis-Of-Evil. So even though he didn't openly say US will attack Iran and North Korea, it is obvious that it will at some point. So then why should US have nukes, if its such a threat to other countries.

US has no authority in who can have the A-bomb and who can't. Sure it can choose the easy way out of the issue- precision bombing (or should I say liberation?) and occupation with its "peace-keeping" police force. Well if US gets to have the bomb, why not everyone else. With the characters in power now in the White House, I'd say that US having the A-bomb is a worldwide threat- which should be dealt with immediatelly. Maybe you'd like somebody to liberate you from your corporate dictatorship? Yeah

If you don't want others to have the bomb, get rid of yous first. And tell your buddies in Israel, Europe and Pakistan to do the same. Otherwise sit back and enjoy your WWII creation spring to life around the world.

[edit on 19-7-2006 by maloy]
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