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Im not defending either side but look at this picture.


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Topic started on 17-7-2006 @ 03:20 PM by Denied




July 17: Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona in northern Israel.


Now i know Hezbollah is just to blame, i bet alot of kids are taught to hate Israel as much as its the other way round.
Not a good way to bring up your kids though, the hate lives on, generation to generation.
I think "most" people dont realise just what the culture and true feeling running through these people, as we sit typing away on our computers.
These kids probaly know those bombs are going to kill people, whether innocent or not.

I know the militry does this, sending a message with the bomb, but kids eager to send their message of hate.

I fear this world is going to consume itself with hate and anger.

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:26 PM by hogtie


Could you post the source for the photo?



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:26 PM by Aelita


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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:28 PM by thesaint


Poor and innocent children how sick is that.

Hopefully that girl will grow up to live in a civilised society in peace but imagine the guilt she would feel as an adult with her own children to be reminded of what she done in that picture.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:34 PM by Denied


www.foxnews.com...

Just go through the pictures of the day, the photographer is a good one, but the pictures are thought provoking.

I hate fox.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:35 PM by l0rds0fcha0s


Originally posted by Aelita
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That my friend is the most ignorant post I have ever seen on ats, pts, or bts.
Is this a plot to get us to side with hezbollah? This type of thing happens in every war. How do you know that other than the kids, these weren't part of the terrorist org. And to say that is the recipients of the messages is ignorant. It doesn;t make me feel bad. I feel sorry for the kids, but I know that sacrifices have to be made when it comes to war. And who are you to say that by bombing that truck and killing 4 or 5 ppl that the lives of thousands in israel wasn't saved. Sacrifices are a part of war, there will be civilian casualties. So you can take that picture and do with it what you will , but I know that it is just a ploy to get us to side with terrorists. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:37 PM by RetinoidReceptor


Ugh stupid Bush. Why must America deal with these people? I mean both Israelis AND Arabs. There is absolutely no dealing with them because each side is full of hate towards each other. Well then let the middle deal with themselves, and the West should go skip someplace else.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:39 PM by thesaint


Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Ugh stupid Bush. Why must America deal with these people? I mean both Israelis AND Arabs. There is absolutely no dealing with them because each side is full of hate towards each other. Well then let the middle deal with themselves, and the West should go skip someplace else.


Couldnt agree more. We are wasting our time and resources and no doubt the lives of our own



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:40 PM by Elsenorpompom


You have voted Denied for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.



Great find...it really brings home the psychological warfare that countires will use against there own people. This to me is intentional....bring em into the fold young and youve got them for life.


Great Find Denied....its sad scary and frustrating....but a great find none the less



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:41 PM by Aelita


Originally posted by l0rds0fcha0s
How do you know that other than the kids, these weren't part of the terrorist org.



I don't. I never said I did.

And to say that is the recipients of the messages is ignorant. It doesn;t make me feel bad.


I know it doesn't.

I feel sorry for the kids, but I know that sacrifices have to be made when it comes to war.


Umm, I'm sure the kids understood that.

but I know that it is just a ploy to get us to side with terrorists


I have no idea where you got this notion. I do not condone terrorism. I also do not support a "total war" against Lebanon.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:43 PM by hogtie


Whoever removed that other link, thank you. And thanks for posting the source for the original photo. I may get hammered for calling fox a legitimate news source, but the validity of that photo holds much more water for me than the other link did. If the photo had come from there, I would be skeptical. Just no way to validate the time/location/date of those.

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:47 PM by DrLeary


Originally posted by l0rds0fcha0s
Originally posted by Aelita
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That my friend is the most ignorant post I have ever seen on ats, pts, or bts.
Is this a plot to get us to side with hezbollah? This type of thing happens in every war. How do you know that other than the kids, these weren't part of the terrorist org. And to say that is the recipients of the messages is ignorant. It doesn;t make me feel bad. I feel sorry for the kids, but I know that sacrifices have to be made when it comes to war. And who are you to say that by bombing that truck and killing 4 or 5 ppl that the lives of thousands in israel wasn't saved. Sacrifices are a part of war, there will be civilian casualties. So you can take that picture and do with it what you will , but I know that it is just a ploy to get us to side with terrorists. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!


Did anybody read the comments on the blog?

I think these pics are staged... notice the massive damage to the vehicle, yet the 'bodies' look only as if makeup was applied and clothes torn up a bit.

With a direct hit like this, the bodies would be mostly mangled up and in pieces.

Hence, I think these series of pics are staged fakes.
El Jose Truthe Gigante | 07.15.06 - 12:54 pm | #


I can't see any crater. Shouldn't there have been a hole in the road where the shell hit? Road seems fine to me. Almost looks like the car bas blown up from the inside. But that's all speculations as we don't even know what weapons were used. What I do find strange though, is that they all look intact...

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 03:48 PM by Peyres


the kids probably think they are going to hit hezbollah targets, as they have been told.

I've always slightly leant more of my support to Israel. Why? because most of the israeli people I've talked to and have heard from, do not HATE arabs or Muslims. They do not spread lies and attempt to rubbish the value of life over another. The opposite has seemed to be more (not widespread) prevelant on the other side of the war.

The palestinian millitants have shown to be masters of propoganda. Jenin etc

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 04:21 PM by Denied




Well this is the reality of their ignorance, im not trying to play a propaganda pic war here, just wanted to start a thread that touched on the reality of this war.

Maybe other ATS'ers would like to add other pictures that they feel say more than words.

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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 04:50 PM by marg6043


Well the propaganda against one evil and one good sometimes is not what it may seem.

We see young children with weapons in support of muslin radicals.

Now we see young children again happy to sign bombs to kill other people that they look at as evil.

At the end evil is all around us and within one and each of us.

All we have to do is tag it with for the good of the world and right thing to do depending which side you favor.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 05:04 PM by Deus_Brandon


What we need to realize is there are someone behind these pictures and how they got here. If some people from some foreign country sent pictures here to tell the REALITY of the Whole situation ... then we would probably as a media source not Post the pictures. So in reality we know what our government wants us to know ... KNowledge is Power .... To much KNowledge can never get out about any certain situation .... So the government lets the Threads exist ... But Highly Monitored ... KEEP THAT IN MIND ... Mods ... .... LoL .. I think not ..



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 05:06 PM by Denied



KNowledge is Power




What?
Knowledge speaks wisdom listens.


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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 05:07 PM by ThePieMaN


I really like things like this. It truly shows that its not just one sided and even the side that supposed to be on our side does wrong and teaches wrong. You people constantly trying to make excuses for our Ally...its about time you either A Wake up and open your eyes or B Stop trying to make it appear as you are always righteous.

People are seeing the big picture. Its about time.

Comments on Israeli news websites by their Citizens and even Americans are just as deplorable and despicable as any common hatred spewed by terrorists.


Pie



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 05:40 PM by Techsnow


Wow that pictures sick!
Before I saw this picture though I have kind of had a change of mind.
I was thinking really hard today about why I support Israel and I couldn't really find a reason...
So I was thinking why support either?
They're both religious fanatics and that is one thing I am proud to claim I am not.
So I would like to officialy remain neutral on this issue by saying that I am proud to say that I hate both sides equally.



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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 05:46 PM by intrepid


Originally posted by Techsnow
Wow that pictures sick!
Before I saw this picture though I have kind of had a change of mind.
I was thinking really hard today about why I support Israel and I couldn't really find a reason...
So I was thinking why support either?
They're both religious fanatics and that is one thing I am proud to claim I am not.
So I would like to officialy remain neutral on this issue by saying that I am proud to say that I hate both sides equally.


Don't hate though.

You will see Palisinian kids with guns too, and who's to say who set the stage(on both sides). You've got it right though, BOTH sides are WRONG!

Keep thinking man.



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