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reply posted on 20-7-2006 @ 04:23 AM by oilwar
Thanks.

Indeed this is the problem with high level conspiracies in which the conspirators are surrounded by experts in secrecy and counter-intelligence as well as having a significant degree of control over sections of the media.

They usually able to conceal their real motives behind spin and propaganda (such as "Iraq has WMD and they may nuke the United States, so we have to go in there. It's nothing to do with oil or Israel!"

However where their operations involve something that is impossible to conceal, such as large-scale troop movements or large numbers of people (particularly in foreign regions where their grip on the media is much looser) then it becomes much harder to conceal their operations. And occasionally they slip up as well. And they don't have infinite control over the media.

They then need to rely on propaganda and spin to make it look as though they are doing what they are doing for different reasons:

We sent the largest fleet in history close to Afghanistan just for training - just before 9/11. This fleet then invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11 - not the Centgas oil Pipeline or the Islamist threat to israel. (Saif Sareea II in Oman just before 9/11 – the Afghanistan invasion force were conveniently already in place thanks to the largest military deployment of all time - which they claimed was just an exercise!
www.army.mod.uk...
en.wikipedia.org...(R06)
www.sundayherald.com...
www.sundayherald.com...

We invaded Iraq because they had WMD ready to use against the United States - not because they are the world's second largest source of oil with a few conventional missiles aimed at Israel.

We needed to send troops to Lebanon to rescue our citizens being bombed by Israel. Not because we are gearing up to assist with the destruction of Lebanon and then invade Syria and from there Iran.

When you appreciate their real motives it's possible to expose them using their unconcealable operations as compelling circumstantial evidence.

For example:

ISRAEL ADMITS CIVILIANS ARE ITS REAL TARGET:
www.theinsider.org...

ISRAEL ATTACKS PALESTINIAN REFUGEES TOO:
www.theinsider.org...

"Britain is sending two ships, including an aircraft carrier, to the Middle East... ministry of defence said no "specific tasking" had yet been allotted to HMS Illustrious and HMS Bulwark."
news.bbc.co.uk...
(I think they may have changed the text to make it sound more innocent since I copied and pasted this quote.)

"The military began discussing plans to move an expeditionary strike group that includes 2,200 Marines to the Mediterranean Sea and hired a private cruise ship to take evacuees from Beirut to Cyprus"
www.washingtonpost.com...

"The FIRST wave of additional UK troops in Afghanistan arrive in the country."
news.bbc.co.uk...
13 July 2006

The Lebanese army has been ordered not to respond to the Israeli attacks. But Lebanese soldiers have now died in several strikes, including one on the port of Abdeh on Monday in which nine died.

news.bbc.co.uk...

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reply posted on 20-7-2006 @ 09:30 AM by Peyres
Originally posted by oilwar
ISRAEL ADMITS CIVILIANS ARE ITS REAL TARGET:
www.theinsider.org...

ISRAEL ATTACKS PALESTINIAN REFUGEES TOO:
www.theinsider.org...



sorry, where in those articles does an Israeli official admit they are openely targetting civilians?

civilian INFRASTRUCTURE is what they are targetting, along with Hezbollah targets. Again you are taking an article and are twisting everythin that is being said to try and show something, you WANT TO HEAR.

civilian infrastructure becomes valid targets in war. Particularly if Hezbollah uses the communications network to conduct their operations.


reply posted on 24-7-2006 @ 04:13 PM by joshai2334
There seems to be no way out of this PNAC muck and mire. When I called my senator's office today, her legislative assistant had never heard of any of this, did not KNOW what "Project for a New American Century" is. No discussions in that office.

According to General Wesley Clark--the Pentagon, by late 2001, was Planning to Attack Lebanon -- "Winning Modern Wars" (page 130) General Clark states the following:

www.legitgov.org...

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan.

"...He said it with reproach--with disbelief, almost--at the breadth of the vision. I moved the conversation away, for this was not something I wanted to hear. And it was not something I wanted to see moving forward, either. ...I left the Pentagon that afternoon deeply concerned."


Of course, this wholly consistent with the US Neocons' master plan, "Rebuilding America's Defenses," published in August 2000 by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

And, as PNAC's website ( www.newamericancentury.org... ) notes, that the lead author of that plan, Thomas Donnelly, was a top official of Lockheed Martin--a company well acquainted with war and its profit potential.

It's no surprise that Republicans are starting to talk about withdrawing troops from Iraq; the troops will be needed in Lebanon. And maybe Sudan and Syria?



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reply posted on 25-7-2006 @ 11:58 AM by nwomi
Cool info thanks for keeping me inform.



reply posted on 30-7-2006 @ 03:49 AM by oilwar
SYRIA & IRAN INVASION FORCE FORMING

"An international force must be quickly despatched to Lebanon, US President George W Bush has said. After talks in Washington with UK Prime Minister Tony Blair..."
(The word "force is a clue to the real plan - to force into Lebanon, then Syria, then Iran using Lebanon, Israel and Iraq as staging bases. This Bush-Blair summit is the equivalent of the one at Bush's ranch in which they made the final plans to attack Iraq. Is this going to be part of the invasion force? Will Israel stage an attack on this force by Hizbola, paving the way for the international force to step in?)
news.bbc.co.uk...

Israel is massing troops for the initial Lebanon invasion - ready to move into Syria:
"Israel has massed soldiers and tanks on the border with Lebanon and called up thousands of reserve troops, in a possible prelude to a ground offensive."
news.bbc.co.uk...

The US is massing troops in Iraq, which borders with both Syria and Iran:
"The Pentagon's decision to increase U.S. forces in Iraq will push troop levels there to roughly 135,000"
www.chron.com...

We are seeing the invasion force forming. It will follow a blitz of bombs, missiles and shells to soften up its targets just as we saw in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If Syria and Iran are wise they will not retaliate when they are provoked. But they will prepare to defend themselves against total destruction.


Meanwhile in Lebanon the slaughter increases:
"families had been sheltering in the basement of the site, which was demolished. Rescuers said many of the casualties were children. Reporters spoke of people screaming in grief and anger amid the wreckage."
news.bbc.co.uk...

"Israel enjoys an indulgence from Washington far beyond anything previous, essentially giving it a free hand."
news.bbc.co.uk...

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