posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 12:11 AM
Money is a means of exchange and no one has the right to charge interest on our issuing of capital no matter what you call them. 99.99% of the time,
they do not have the right to inflate economies, cause recessions, depressions and rig the markets. They do almost 100% of the time and when I speak
of International Bankers, I do not mean people running your local branches because when the International bankers came into America, they went to war
with the smaller banks and Trusts and eventually through politics and sabotage, crushed them or amalgamated them. It does not matter if this
so-called FED is 100% run by the government or 100% private owned. What matters is the system itself is not the same system that is supposed to be in
operation in America, which is to say, the system based upon Congress issuing the nations capital based upon a Gold Standard and one which cannot
place upon the masses, the appetite of an uncontrollable a criminal enterprise that must continue to consume - like a government that forces the
economy into debt.
I certainly appreciate you being the new poster here and finding it reasonable to spend all day and clear up these so-called ‘conspiracy theories’
regarding the FED. We would prefer not to frighten anyone else by advising of the true upcoming economic situation either, so we thank you for taking
the necessary time to assist us in letting us know that everything will be just fine. Well, actually it will not just be fine but that also depends
on your spiritual beliefs and from where you are standing now. Age and experience is part of my background in finance and I can assure you that those
of us who do know something, or get lucky enough to know it, or just so happen to have good references and connections, are investing in Gold and
Silver related assets today – unless of course they have been covered by the US government for all their losses – and in that event they are with
the bad guys. Speaking of covering for “shorting” and “selling” losing positions, do you recall the recent activity of Mr. Warren Buffet
selling & shorting much of his Silver and Gold related assets? My-my, people really rushed out to be selling their Gold and Silver related assets
after that announcement; for who wouldn’t know better about the markets than a man as wealthy as Mr. Buffet? After all, the idea was you don’t
need to be buying Gold and Silver when the Dow and NASDAQ are looking fantastic, right? I do thank Mr. Buffet and the others who continue sell and
short Gold and Silver, as it has provided us an opportunity to purchase at way below real market value.
Now would it be of any consequence that making such bold claims about the FED after one day’s worth of research is not truly based upon any solid
foundation of truth-seeking; for such an ideology of truth cannot be found by anyone claiming they know more than anyone else after spending a day or
two day studying the FED on the internet. Allow me to introduce myself to you sir, as someone who may have been involved with operating his own
Brokerage Firm, and may have worked at the Morgan Bank and an individual who may know more about Gold and Silver and the related markets then most
people on Wall Street do today. Or I could be just pulling your leg and have no idea what I’m talking about and just here to blow some hot air and
scare everyone about doom and gloom? Naturally, on these forums we can never get together over lunch and get to truly know each other any better than
what we claim to be here. But not that anyone can really be all knowing; for that would insult the very same “illuminists” who claim that they
are all knowing and all powerful and who have placed such lovely symbols upon the FIAT dollar. But the Founding Fathers if they were alive today,
surly would tend to agree with “Excitable Boy” and the other posters here who are overall correct in their views regarding this scam, being just
another ponzi scheme. One need only read the Founding Fathers own words and that much is already pretty much set in stone. In fact the very owners
of the FED today have admitted it themselves that they planned a conspiracy on the Island known as “Jeckal Island” and they see no big deal in
hiding this reality nowadays. Since these criminals wish the US dollar to remain strong by having the world (including the criminals) invest in US
Treasuries (worth almost nothing) and also to not be buying Gold and Silver related assets, I actually go out of my way to try and upset them in every
capacity. In fact, they would love to be rid of someone like me, particularly if they realised just how many people I have encouraged and moved into
purchasing Gold and Silver related assets. But I came here to help spread some truth by looking out for nonsense which is at the heart of the matter,
just trying to cover up for all the lies by telling us that the US dollar is worth investing in, even though the dollar is today worth little more
than about 4 pennies. I seriously doubt you are deliberately spreading lies, but nonetheless you are spreading nonsense which I have no choice other
than to intervene and help educate you. I wish to remind at this point that the FED note is not belonging to any member of Congress; nor of the
American people even though only Congress may by law, issue the nations currency. Not to mention that the Supreme Court decision has upheld the fact
that Congress has no new powers to issue capital other than what it had from very beginning. I’m afraid most Americans have never had a single bad
day in their life and as such they almost forgot about saving for the rainy day ahead, for something this simple is rarely understood as meaning
saving up for a Depression, they are in for some tough times ahead. But you and many like you, do not knew about this because the FED does not want
Americans to be panicking and when the FED jumps ship, they plan on being first – not the last. And you people who get stuck behind are going to be
left to pick up the bill.
Now by claiming the FED (after one day’s research) is not a scam I have to say it seems a fairly mammoth statement to proclaim. Considering the FED
is not a Federal entity and was never passed into law by a majority Congressional vote and also that even if it had been passed by a majority Congress
it would still not be a “Reserve” having 100% backing in Gold. Doing a vote with the majority of Congressman on Christmas vacation is not voting
and not what I call a proper vote. In another area, even to this very day, there is also no law requiring anyone to pay income tax, yet the FED
enforces a law that has never even been shown to us through the IRS and other agencies.
If you can find the law requiring Americans to pay income please let us all know about it.
The criminals are rarely going to debate us on this at any length, for they know it will draw to them too much attention, you see? Fractional Reserve
Banking is not compatible with a Constitutional Republic and so you have made quite the bold statement here that it is not a scam. Now the FED is a
Central Banking Cartel and not a government agency, even though many in the FED are also working in government as high-level officials. The FED is
often referred to as a private body - it has also never once been audited - but it is also not quite correct to call it “Private” either. To be
truly private means no government involvement and free enterprise but since it is not based upon free enterprise, it by definition a CARTEL.
The correct name for the FED is a “CARTEL” because the government is working with the FED in unison and the FED gives their command to the Vice
President and to Congress also. The Congressman act like trustees for the FED, instead of acting as representatives for the people and by the people!
Now this is why I say, Americans may get only one more election so throw out all of Congress, or you better arm yourself. If you dislike violence as
much I do, then vote them out based solely upon their past voting record – not their party! The FED’s board is not appointed by Bush and this
so-called appointment by Bush is simply a list of men that is presented to Mr. Bush by the shareholders of the FED; who therein tell Mr. Bush who to
select (based on the list) and thus, it appears that Bush selects them – even though they have already been selected. Bush and the rest of those
lunatics in the White House and Congress (with some very small exception) could barely hope to find their way out of a bathroom! They remind me of
the IMF, btw. The IMF makes up a group of little minions who like to bankrupt other nations and help install dictators. These minions wrote about
the coming economical disaster in the Toronto Star last week, as if they were so worried. Well, they caused the major crisis today that we are now
facing and they are now concerned all of a sudden? How so? Well, they obviously are telling the mainstream public that they can expect to see a
dollar decline but the issue therein lies whether they are going to allow the US dollar to collapse fast, or slowly. Obviously, they choose a slow
decline of the dollar and cannot now stop it, and so this is an indication that they are holding up the economy by shorting Gold and Silver and
allowing the dollar to remain as high as possible. The taxpayers are not paying for the Vice President’s paycheck the Shareholders of the FED do.
The Shareholders of the FED control the government and as Lord Rothschild said give me the power to issue the nations capital, and I care not who
writes its laws. Rothschild also said, that in a Bull market, you never care about the top and bottom 25%, you go for the average in the middle, you
Now every day, these criminals wake up and come up with their daily quota of capital they wish to spend on manipulating markets. These criminals tell
the firms and large banks what positions to short and what to buy and sell for the day. And they go out and do this all in unison – which is of
course illegal but the SEC and anyone with half a brain in this industry can see by now that it is illegal and do nothing about it. It’s so
obviously the SEC is also in on it because if they say no, then they lose the chance to retire and then get a job at the FED, you see? I told one SEC
member to his face what I thought of him and his job and he just frowned and walked away because they simply do not care what we think. And although
their mission is complex at times, the end goal of each and every day for them is very simple – keep the US dollar high and keep the corporations
and investors very happy, by forcing the Gold and precious metals to go down in value.
Income tax and inflation are caused through the FED’s printing of FIAT notes. They can mask inflation by increasing interest rates but when
production and interests rates are not high enough to balance this printing out, and then they keep on printing, we have eventual hyper- inflation.
Now recall that inflation is only permitted by Congress in the event of an economic disaster but this is only a provision given to do in case of war
and also in case of extreme times of duress – like during a Depression. The FED prints, for example 20 billion dollars in a day from thin air and
also has a total amount of capital from the REPO poll and other areas to work with each trading morning. So in total (on an average day – based on
my experience) they may have about 800 billion each day to play with by using it to short and manipulate the markets. So the Shareholders of the FED
tell the employees of the FED, to go and print the money and then lend this money out to the various smaller banks, institutions and firms. Then
those same banks, firms and institutions in turn use this FIAT currency to buy back Government Bonds and also to lend out to smaller banks. This is
also a large part of the deal here. Now the smaller banks thus lend this money out to us little people – and sometimes at very low interest rates
because they can afford to do this having no competition. But the FED also lends the money out to Mr. Bush and his gang of lunatic thugs who need it
for wars in Iraq or Iran, or whatever etc. But guess what, Bush cannot possibly receive enough money back from the taxes, drugs and donations alone,
so he just gets the FED to print him some more money from thin air and he spends even more! So what right does the FED have to print capital like
this, from nothing? Of course, the public must pay it back with huge interest so these criminals are charging the American people interest on their
own capital when money is merely only the “means of exchange”! This is CRIMINALITY at the HIGHEST DEGREE and worth a Revolution! The FED issues
currency from nothing and has no Gold backing whatsoever! Thus it is not even worth the paper it is printed on.
The US government is not printing the money, the FED is, remember this. Mr. Bush and the Treasury officials are to pay back the loans to the FED and
with HUGE interest. Income tax used to be non-existent at one time before the First World War because it is an un-apportioned tax. A tax of even one
penny on someone’s labour is called “tyrannical” and worth another Revolution! The FED caused the Depression by printing money like crazy and
the hole they created was so huge and couldn’t be filled by sales taxes. After the Depression, they understood what they had to do and that was to
fill this hole up by issuing income tax! However, now even income tax cannot fill the hole they have created. In the 1980’s they decided that they
had to destroy the Real Estate market by increasing interests rates to very high levels. This caused the Housing Bubble to collapse quickly. But the
“illuminists” salvaged the dollar because the American people luckily had some savings – outside of their mortgages. That time has now passed.
In the 1980’s, the American people were not so highly leveraged in their mortgages, so the bankers were able to increase mortgage interest rates up
to over 30% to help the dollar. But now with outsourcing increasing and production decreasing, how can the economy ever recover when inflation
continues to increase by an average actual 11% or more per year? On the news they tell us something ridiculous like 2-4% inflation and they never
discuss money and credit in reality! Simply put, if you do this long enough – that is printing money from nothing, inflation will become like
“pushing on string” and that means, eventually you cannot stimulate any growth and deflation and depression will follow because the economy will
become washed in dollars.
These men are evil crooks and they are stealing our purchasing power and if you so wish to defend them than why not just do yourself big favours and
start using Monopoly money? You do not even know how much money and credit the FED is issuing each year; yet you claim to know something of their net
worth. The FED stopped publishing “M3” last April and I am one of the few people (in the world) who know the “M3” estimate. The rough
estimate is 150 X “M2” but I have contacts and can get a number that is much more accurate. Do you know what “M3” is? If not, I advise you
to go and find out why it is no longer being published. I cannot ait to hear what their great excuse is for that one. If you think the FED doesn’t
make that much money that why don’t we all just go prove it by having an audit performed? David Rockefeller is after all, only worth about 10-30
trillion. I wish you the very best of luck though.
The average household per capita savings in America is (–$10,500) and America is going to have a terrible Depression in a few years time. The FED
cannot stop this Depression by increasing interests rates because it will collapse the Real Estate markets and this will collapse the dollar. Why?
Because most Americans are living off refinancing their homes for their own basic consumption and the bubble has already begun to burst in Real Estate
and so now you know why the FED could only raise the interest’s rates very carefully on Real Estate in the past few months. So there is no turning
back now and there is no way out for them. But now you have to decide if you want to pick up the brunt of the bill, or not?
The most ludicrous statement to make is that the International Bankers have helped anyone. Gold is Money – it is a Fundamental. The paper is not a
fundamental! At one time the paper was only the receipt for Gold coins. Now your same receipt is not only carrying a value of about 4 pennies but
your receipt is worthless because it is no longer redeemable in GOLD! So your day’s worth of reading sources are lying to you. They tell you that
the markets are stable and that International Bankers have done good things for us all. What they do is only good for them and they have no loyalty
to any nation. They enslave nations and if you want to know why the 3’rd world nations are now ALL buying Gold and taking it home and burying it
– with their guns, then may be you need to live through a really bad day to find out? The experts in the papers and on TV are either liars, or just
plain dumb. Sorry to be vulgar here, but it is a known fact where I am and one that you best be going out and finding out for yourself. Anyone
younger than 70 years is too young to know the markets today and not many bankers (alive today) have any clue about it – except for the criminals
who do know it very well. I am far younger than 70 years but I do know this claim for very good reason and as such, I have made a fortune based upon
what I do know. And I also know that you are not working for the bad guys and just have an opinion but you seem confused and this it is really not
your fault. Don’t depend on Trump and others to tell you the real reasons why they sold their Gold. They are not often selling it, but shorting it
and they are also being compensated by the US government and guess which people have to pay them all back in the end?