Am I my brother's keeper? Reasons why repugnants will go to Hell

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posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel


Jesus would judge and tell the truth as I have.

[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Colonel]



Perhaps, but he is considered perfect, and if you consider yourself a christian one should follow "Thou Shall Not Judge" but it's cool, most christians just pick and choose ideas out of the bible that suit them at the time.

Just like when I hear old men say "The Bible says to not mix the races" I ask them where does it say this? They cannot provide an answer.



[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Lysergic]




posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i dont like to play what if games but one has to wonder....i dont believe in god but....if he does exist...

what if god decides to punish colonel for being a judgemental dillhole?

i'd gnaw my left arm off to see the look on colonels face when he finds out god isnt what he believed him to be and gets punished instead of rewarded for the BS he doles out on this board (and to everyone who comes into contact with him, such a person cant possibly keep their mouth shut let alone keep their opinions to themself)

a very amusing thought that leaves a rather warm fuzzy feeling in my heart......


Hell is coming quick for this one. In any event, how can I punished for telling the truth?



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic

Originally posted by Colonel


Jesus would judge and tell the truth as I have.

[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Colonel]



Perhaps, but he is perfect, and if you consider yourself a christian one should follow "Thou Shall Not Judge" put it's cool, most christians just pick and choose ideas out of the bible that suit them at the time.

Just like when I hear old men say "The Bible says to not mix the races" I ask them where does it say this? They cannot provide an answer.


I can provide an answer for everyting I state.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey
i dont like to play what if games but one has to wonder....i dont believe in god but....if he does exist...

what if god decides to punish colonel for being a judgemental dillhole?

i'd gnaw my left arm off to see the look on colonels face when he finds out god isnt what he believed him to be and gets punished instead of rewarded for the BS he doles out on this board (and to everyone who comes into contact with him, such a person cant possibly keep their mouth shut let alone keep their opinions to themself)

a very amusing thought that leaves a rather warm fuzzy feeling in my heart......


Hell is coming quick for this one. In any event, how can I punished for telling the truth?


i know you cannot possibly be THIS stupid but i will dumb it down for you since it went over your head like a 747.....

you judging others......is against gods word, only he can judge. and i'm sure there are some things mentioned about people acting as if they were god themselves and that being bad as well.

of course you also think you're jesus christ. delusional angry bitter man! i still pity you though.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by ThePrankMonkey

you judging others......is against gods word, only he can judge. and i'm sure there are some things mentioned about people acting as if they were god themselves and that being bad as well.

of course you also think you're jesus christ. delusional angry bitter man! i still pity you though.


Show me.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 02:59 PM
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[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Lysergic]



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:13 PM
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1 Corinthians 13:6
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.


That's all I have to say on the "judging" thing. Please read the very first post and lie and tell me that's not true.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:36 PM
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This is a lie. God has stated numerous times in the Bible about people he hates.


Funny, somehow this doesn't jive with the "kind and loving" God principle...this is more of the old testament fire and brimstone God we all know and love, hehe...



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

This is a lie. God has stated numerous times in the Bible about people he hates.


Funny, somehow this doesn't jive with the "kind and loving" God principle...this is more of the old testament fire and brimstone God we all know and love, hehe...


Well, its true. And he mentions some in the NT too.



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:41 PM
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but all of it is backwards if you believe in the theory of the demiurge



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Lysergic
but all of it is backwards if you believe in the theory of the demiurge



WHAT???????



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:52 PM
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I am not too in the know about it, but I was talking to a friend who brought it up.

Basically he said Demiurge, is satan posing as god and is the creator of this physical world/plane


The concept of the Demiurge does not reconcile easily with Christian philosophy. The Platonic interpretation seems to presuppose the pre-existence of matter (in a chaotic form) and this conflicts with the Judeo-Christian concept of an all-powerful creator who fashioned the universe out of nothingness (ex nihilo). While the concept of Satan is well-defined in Christian literature, most theologians reject the notion that Satan (or an equivalent being) could also be the creator of the physical universe, this being the achievement of the Supreme God.



I myself am not sure what I believe, but I think it's good to view all information that is out there.


many systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as being antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Creator, the Demiurge being focused solely on material reality and the "sensuous soul". In this context the Demiurge can be characterised as the "Satan" of Gnostic thought. In the Apocrypphon of John (in the Nag Hammadi collection), the Demiurge is characterised as "Yaltabaoth", who proclaims himself as God:


"Now the archon who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas, and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come."


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 03:55 PM
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Demiurge became the personification of the power of evil, the Satan of Gnosticism, with whom the faithful had to wage war to the end that they might be pleasing to the Good God. The Gnostic Demiurge then assumes a surprising likeness to Ahriman, the evil counter-creator of Ormuzd in Mazdean philosophy.

www.newadvent.org...

Would that not be the ultimate evil, to trick the followers of god the "good" god?

I am not saying this is true or is my opinion but I have also heard that Christ is an alter ego of satan.
A perfect Human, yet a human is imperfect.

Just some stuff to think about.

I am sure there is a lot better information around the net.

[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Lysergic]



posted on Oct, 27 2003 @ 04:09 PM
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This appears to be "strong deslusion"---which is also mentioned in the Bible.

2 Thessalonians 2
11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie

Psalm 4
2 How long, O men, will you turn my glory into shame [1] ?
How long will you love delusions and seek false gods [2]


[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Colonel]



posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 11:53 AM
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I really don't think Ted Kennedy is gonna be at St. Peter's right side either, man.

I believe what you are refering to is charitable nature. If you want to compare Dems and republicans, shall we compare the amounts donated to charities by the Clintons and Gores to the amount contributed by Bush and Cheney. I really don't think you want those numbers publicized anymore than they have to be do you? Ah, but charities who are non-for profit don't get it do they? What you mean is forced confiscation and redistribution of personal property. Yeah, thats the right thing to do...playing Robin Hood..STEALING from the rich to give to the poor...when in actuallity, Robin Hood reclaimed illegally obtained funds from an over-taxing government and returned it to those who Rightfully earned it.

Charity to those less fortunate is imparitive and I believe one always recieves a blessing for it..and who knows when you might be in their shoes one day. But to use the plight of the poor to confiscate public money, use most of it for self-serving purposes and then let the crumbs trickle out is an abomination. If the poor need money, there doesn't need to be middle men skimming of the top. Take them away, cut the confiscation by half and raise the amount the poor get by 90%. I6ts the waste by fat cats that I oppose not food to some poor family. I just don't happen to think a politicain needs a new summer home to administrate the funds properly. These are the people who will stoke hell's fires, make no mistake. Those that earn their bread by the sweat of their brow and give aid when they canaren't damned because they oppose the sort of criminal behavior. Its yet another case of labeling by the liberals. If you think the waste can be cut and more go to the poor, they double-talk and misquote until they feel halfway legit in accussing people of being selfish. You want selfish, don't look at the guy making 25 to 30 grand per year who can't afford to pay 30% of that to the government, look at the people who expect him to pay it.



posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by astrocreep
I really don't think Ted Kennedy is gonna be at St. Peter's right side either, man.

I believe what you are refering to is charitable nature. If you want to compare Dems and republicans, shall we compare the amounts donated to charities by the Clintons and Gores to the amount contributed by Bush and Cheney. I really don't think you want those numbers publicized anymore than they have to be do you? Ah, but charities who are non-for profit don't get it do they? What you mean is forced confiscation and redistribution of personal property. Yeah, thats the right thing to do...playing Robin Hood..STEALING from the rich to give to the poor...when in actuallity, Robin Hood reclaimed illegally obtained funds from an over-taxing government and returned it to those who Rightfully earned it.

Charity to those less fortunate is imparitive and I believe one always recieves a blessing for it..and who knows when you might be in their shoes one day. But to use the plight of the poor to confiscate public money, use most of it for self-serving purposes and then let the crumbs trickle out is an abomination. If the poor need money, there doesn't need to be middle men skimming of the top. Take them away, cut the confiscation by half and raise the amount the poor get by 90%. I6ts the waste by fat cats that I oppose not food to some poor family. I just don't happen to think a politicain needs a new summer home to administrate the funds properly. These are the people who will stoke hell's fires, make no mistake. Those that earn their bread by the sweat of their brow and give aid when they canaren't damned because they oppose the sort of criminal behavior. Its yet another case of labeling by the liberals. If you think the waste can be cut and more go to the poor, they double-talk and misquote until they feel halfway legit in accussing people of being selfish. You want selfish, don't look at the guy making 25 to 30 grand per year who can't afford to pay 30% of that to the government, look at the people who expect him to pay it.


I am not talking about charities (although Clinton just made a deal to send cheap AIDS drugs to Africa (where maybe 70% of the population has AIDS). I am just talking about caring for your fellow man. You don't. YOu just care for your own well-being.

In fact, like Cain, you would prefer to KILL your fellow man rather than help him if he has something you want.



posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 09:08 PM
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How the hell do you know? You generalize and stereo type me because I do not believe in confiscation and redistribution. I believe in teaching someone how to make their own way instead of just giving them enough to remain dependant on others. The ability and motivation to be self-sufficient should be counted as the ultimate gift of education. You have no idea of how charitable I am Colonel. Your a political pundit and nothing more. Your world extend no further in life than labels of black and white, dem and rep. You have painted yourself in a box and now spend every waking moment trying to confine everything around you as you have chosen to confine yourself. the words you type into your computer are only that and do not transend into reality. Your in that world largely alone. I use to be aggitated with your labels but the more I think about the life you must lead reguardless of what you have or have not, it must be a living hell inside you. Please know that you are very much alone in that way and will remain so until you begin to judge people individually instead of by the childish ideology that you have created.



posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 09:20 PM
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READ MY BLOG... TEACH it ot the one's you are obviously so worried about and it all GETS BETTER...

Seriously man! WHAT R U SAYIN' Here? Do you even know?

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posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
After Cain killed Abel, God asked Cain where his brother was. Cain lied and responed that he didn't know and "Am I my brother's keeper?"

Ask any repugnant this and they will say no. Screw him. Everyone should fend for themselves and if you find yourself in dire straits, too damn bad. I got mine.

This flies in the face of God and all that is Christian.

But they forget the maxim "But for the grace of God, there go I."

Furthermore, if this is opposite of God, then it can only come form one place, Satan, hence my rhetoric that these "people" are going to Hell as they scream "Jesus, Jesus." This spirit of Cain will catch up to them....

It's just a matter of time.


[Edited on 27-10-2003 by Colonel]



you forget that its the liberal atheist that bitch about how the pledge of alligence has "under god" in it and how they want that taken out. and they also get bent outta shape about the ten commandments in a park. please explain that to me. and we conservatives are not cowardly, we welcome a good fight! so much to say about you liberals. In the thread "ANY MILITARY HERE" you said that "I really can't discuss any of this...." becaus you would never die for your country. im also intrested to know what you would do if you were drafted. i think canada welcomes people like you! 'nough said

[Edited on 10-28-2003 by KrazyIvan]



posted on Oct, 28 2003 @ 09:41 PM
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KrazyIvan, calling liberals cowards is personally insulting. Many of my family members have served their country during war. Think before you type and insult millions of brave soldiers again.





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