Originally posted by snoopyuk

as for the "ranch" i too have seen the symbol above the gate before but for the life of me i cant remember where !!.

Byrd assures me it is not a cartouche, but I am not convinced yet.

Originally posted by snoopyuk

i have some new info on the dish as promised, i will be in touch soon.

What new info?

Originally posted by snoopyuk


too be honest though looking at the sat pics it looks like a normal house or even a normal ranch, there seems to be corals(sp?) for horses and other animals. plus it is very close to lots of expensive homes.

i have noticed that a lot of the camp buildings have been upgraded and restored and that there seems to be vehicles there 24/7 esp at the so called guardhouse.

When the base was first designed, the buildings and facilities were either camoflauged or made to look like small building that were part of a fishing village from the air. Can you tell me where you have seen the restored buildings with the vehicles around them?

I'm not so sure I see any connection to Camp Hero with this GATR, wouldn't it most likely have some connection to the local Montauk Airport? The airport is much closer to it than Camp Hero.

OR is this GATR definitely military and nothing else? Montauk has once again left me with more questions than answers as it always has.

Originally posted by WhiteWash

Anyone else notice the strange antenna?(circled in red on left)

Looking forward to the intel on the strange circular dish object as well.

The "Antenna" could be a birdhouse on top of a pole...the circular dish looks like a deck that has been built for entertaining, elevated to look out over the terrain.

This is someone's house...

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
The more I look at that picture, the more I'm thinking waveguide.

just started reading this thread. i'll catch up; however, at first glance i thought of solar panels.

i like this thread and will learn much.

Wow! My newfound interest in Camp Hero is actually exactly what lead me to this site! I accidently came across a website that had some information, so I stalked it all across the WWW. I AM going there this summer. My boyfriend's family lives in Shirley, and we spend the majority of the summer there and bored out of our skulls. Oddly enough, I had never heard of this place until yesterday. I have lived in NYS my entire life..... Hmmmm.....something is being hidden.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Perhaps they wanted to enchant the base with the ability to deliver accurate artillery fire.

Best. Line. Ever.

Seriously.

I am back out here for a day. I had a job interview today. Tomorrow late afternoon or early evening I have to head back. So I wish I knew where the gate and property where. If someone could answer this please u2u me. Thanks.

Heliax cable can be monstrously thick. Designed for very low loss, it uses a helical core and outter conductor that are wound in a helical structure. This allows it to be bent, though you have quite a bit of limitation on how tight a corner you can make. Some of the 600 Mhz stuff I worked with was as thick as my wrist.

Here is a run of Heliax at the base of a transmitter tower (NOT at Montauk ):




Now... about that "antenna". A Log Periodic, and a Yagi antenna, (and others) use a driven element, a reflective element, and one or more director elements to shape and steer the beam. Typically, one end of each element is electrically isolated from the other end, though I guess you could have a solid element configuration if you designed it right. Those cross members appear to be solid in the photos.

A Yagi is an end fire antenna. That means that the beam is directed along the length of the beam. If this thing is a yagi antenna, the beam is either pointed straight up.. or straight down. Probably straight down since you never see multiple reflectors on a yagi... but you do see multiple directors.

So.. now the question is "why"?









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The “square” antenna looks like an H-frame for electric transformers.
A little different from the ones I’m familiar with on the West Coast.
There was probably a bank (3) of three transformers on top.

Note three conductors in - horizontally - and three conductors out.
The transformers would have been tapped into the line with clamp-like devices and the line went on to serve other area’s.

Gauging from the insulator size shown in some of the first photos it appears that the incoming lines were no more than 16kv.
One kv = 1000 volts.

Common transformation would have had the low voltage side of the transformers at the 4kv or 4.8kv level.

What makes the vertical cable look so big is the insulation can be a bit thick depending on the 4 kv conductor size.
Conductor size is dependent on load expected.

It is possible the cable has three small diameter 4kv conductors within, each insulated from the other so 3-phase power can be attained.

I note as well that some antenna’s are supplied/connected with very large diameter cables that are constructed in such a way as to minimize losses as well as outside electrical interferences.

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Isn’t Camp Hero the place where some of the big guns from mortally damaged battleships and the like which were damaged or destroyed at Pearl Harbor were dumped?
Although the USS Philadelphia is/was a cruiser and not at Pearl during the attack.

The object labeled Philadelphia appears to be - if of metal construction - a turret for the guns.

Thinking at the time was that the guns could be salvaged and used on another ship to be built.


There was a Cruiser named Philadelphia - in fact there were six US ships named Philadelphia ranging from sail to nuclear.
The last one being an attack Nuclear Sub that’s still operating.

I can find no evidence of the Philadelphia being at Pearl or having a major gun refit.

Philadelphia was eventually sold to Brazil and was scrapped - I believe in Brazil - some years later.

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Fort Washington in the Washington D.C. area is the site for many of the big gun barrels from WW2 ships as well as some AA stuff and some turrets.
Taken from damaged ships at Pearl Harbor.

Thinking on these guns was that they may have been scheduled to used for coastal artillery.

The very early days after the Pearl Harbor attack found squads of soldiers guarding high voltage power plants and generating stations, machine gun nest’s being built on either side of the river at Hoover Dam.
One especially easy to see nowadays.
It’s just up the hill from the east side view site and convenience store area.

A small square building constructed of locally available rock.
I understand the Army had people there for quite a while.
In contrast the troops stationed at west coast power stations were there about two months on average.



So, if the H-frame structure was indeed for a transformer bank and a supply point for some fairly large equipment . . . even operating at 4kv, the structure fed from these transformers would have been using a considerable amount of power.



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Hi A.T.S. this is my first time on and was wondering about a couple things about camp hero. First of all ive been very interested in this place for a long time and im in the process of planning a trip down to camp hero with 2 other people to do some "research". I was wondering about the building that looks like a barracks of some sort, with the tunnel coming out the back of it. Has anyone tried to get in the building or tunnel itself? From the photos it doesnt appear to difficult lol. I also would like to know why if there was a big enough hole to stick your camera through why not attemp to slip in by accident? If i see something like a big hole in a wall i might have to go in and worry about the consequence if any later , u could say u thought u heard a scream from inside and didnt have time to go for help,you thought someone was in danger lol. well anyways anybody have any tips to get in, perticular things to look for. or any thing anybody would like me to get pictures of? I am going to try my hardest to get pictures from inside and will ask permission to post them.