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Originally posted by Watcher100
Do you not care that Isreal is surrounded by governments that make it public policy to call for its destruction.
Comparing Isreal to Iran is a bit of a stretch.
Herzl mentioned Palestine and Argentina but, the following year, the first Zionist Congress held in Basle declared that the goal of zionism was to "create for the Jewish people a home in Palestine secured by public law". Herzl wrote:
"Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word - which I shall guard against pronouncing publicly - it would be this: at Basle I founded the Jewish State ... If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. Perhaps in 5 years and certainly in 50 everyone will know it." 10/
Following rejection by the Ottoman authorities of his ideas, Herzl approached the British, German, Belgian and Italian Governments and such far-flung locations as Cyprus, East Africa and the Congo were considered, but did not materialize. The creation of a Jewish State in Palestine became the avowed aim of zionism, zealously pressed by Dr. Chaim Weizmann when he came to head the movement.
Since Palestine was an integral part of the Ottoman Empire, the Zionist Organization was cautious in declaring its aims, particularly after the young Turk revolution. The term "State" was avoided, "homeland" being used instead.
According to a Herzl associate, Max Nordau:
"I did my best to persuade the claimants of the Jewish State in Palestine that we might find a circumlocution that would express all we meant, but would say it in a way so as to avoid provoking the Turkish rulers of the coveted land. I suggested "Heimstätte" as a synonym for "State" ... This is the history of the much commented expression. It was equivocal, but we all understood what it meant. To us it signified "Judenstaat" then and it signifies the same now". 11/
In Herzl's words:
"No need to worry [about the phraseology]. The people will read it as 'Jewish State' anyhow". 12/
Leonard Stein, authoritative historian of zionism, writes:
"If their distrust of zionism was to be dispelled, there must be no more talk of a Charter or, even worse, of an international guarantee; still less must there be any room for the suspicion that the real purpose of the Zionist movement was to detach Palestine from Turkey and turn it into a Jewish State. However reluctant they might be to acknowledge that Herzl's ideas were outmoded, even the 'political' Zionists were forced to recognize that, without abandoning the essence of aspirations the movement must change its tactics". 13/
The words of another eminent Zionist historian, who participated in the drafting of the Declaration, conform to this tactic:
"It has been said and is still being obstinately repeated by anti-Zionists again and again, that zionism aims at the creation of an independent 'Jewish State'. But this is wholly fallacious. The 'Jewish State' was never part of the Zionist programme". 14/
But the direction was clear - the goal of zionism from the start was the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine. The rights of the people of Palestine themselves received no attention in these plans.
Originally posted by wang
I dont think Mossad are transporting the soldiers to Iran, i believe that Mossad already killed the soldiers. You must look at this situation and ask youself who gains the most from this situation? I dont see the palestinian or lebanese people gaining much....
Great ready for next great Israeli land-grab.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
They did 9/11, London bombings, Madrid and Bali twice. Why not a little kidnapping? It's simple. A kidnapping. HAHAHA Even us, we are able to do this.