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posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by rocksolid




1. John can you post that drawing?


I will do that this evening.




John,

this link no longer works. Do you have another ? thanks



Would you please refresh my memory as to what drawing I posted, thanks.


It is the link to the only photograph that you considered 100% authentic in terms of a photo of an actual ET.




posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by rocksolid

It is the link to the only photograph that you considered 100% authentic in terms of a photo of an actual ET.






This photo was proven at the ATS research crew to be total hoax.

Whoops, I guess I blew that one.





posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
I will get to it it today, hopefully. The reason for the delay is I want to read everyting before I make a comment. Thanks.


I suggest you put yourself on auto-pilot and watch the Google video posted on the previous page then read the official accident report. The vid is very interesting, except maybe for the allegation that there might have been an instructor on the plane. See for yourself...



posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
I suggest you put yourself on auto-pilot and watch the Google video posted on the previous page then read the official accident report. The vid is very interesting, except maybe for the allegation that there might have been an instructor on the plane. See for yourself...




OK, Watched it. Interesting. Not compelling. But interesting. It has been a while since that happened and at the time I knew a lot about it but my memory is fading. I have a few questions and comments.

As to the log book issue as presented. This is wrong. Names of passengers are not put in the log book. The log book is for recording the pilots time.

I would like to know if there was a voice recorder in the airplane. This is a complex piece of equipment and was not available for small airplanes when I flew them but heck that has been a long time ago. If there was a voice recorder and it was recording, the recording would not have been destroyed in the crash. The voice recorder would have been powered by the main electrical bus and would not have required a battery or backup battery and if it did not record then there was another reason. I find it unlikely that 'someone removed the battery'. But I don't know the exact details.

The transponder would have been set at 1200 (VFR) out over the sea, thats where he N-Tap info came from. In the video they say something about him turning it on in flight. It would have already been on.

My memory is hazy but I believe that Martha's Vineyard only had Unicom and not a FAA Control Tower. Unicom in civilian operated. Unicom is manned by someone who gives wind information and runway in use. It is not government operated or official information. I can see the delay in rescue operations for a few hours but not for 15. The fact that he remained at 2500 feet would have nothing to do with his contact with Unicom, it would have been at his discretion. If in fact I am wrong and there was an FAA control tower then the search and rescue should have started immediately.

300 hours is not a lot of time. If there was no instructor on board it would have been very easy to become confused and enter a graveyard spiral. There is absolutely no visual reference at sea, at night to keep the airplane right side up and so even though it was technically VFR he would have to have been flying on instruments. It is completely different having passed the written and a preparatory flight check and being out at night, at sea without any visual reference. Even with 19,000 hours it is not something I would look forward to especially in a light airplane.

The fuel control in unexplainable. I would buy that somebody in the recovery team turned it off to confuse the issue before I would believe the Manchurian Flight Instructor.

Egyptair Flight 990 is also unexplainable. I don't believe the co-pilot commited suicide. Something else caused that airplane to crash. And that is another very complex story.

That said, I believe that Virginia Tech was most definately a Manchurian scenario.

Thanks for the link, the video was very well done.



posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
It has been a while since that happened and at the time I knew a lot about it but my memory is fading.

Thanks. I had imagine that a accomplished pilot and fellow conspiracy theorist would be interested by the JFK jr. crash.


As to the log book issue as presented. This is wrong. Names of passengers are not put in the log book.

Thanks. Although the Pentagon claimed they hadn’t found the log book itself despite family members seeing on TV (and mentioning) the turquoise duffel bag that jr. kept the log book in being recovered.


I would like to know if there was a voice recorder in the airplane.


FLIGHT RECORDERS

The airplane was equipped with a Flightcom Digital Voice Recorder Clock, DVR 300i. The unit contained a digital clock, was wired into the radio communications circuits, and could record conversations between the airplane and other radio sources, ground, or air. The unit was voice activated, and the continuous loop could record and retain a total of 5 minutes of data. The unit had a nonvolatile speech memory that required a 9-volt backup battery to preserve the speech data. When the unit was located in the wreckage, it was crushed, its backup battery was missing, and it had retained no data.

source (emphasis mine)



In the video they say something about him turning it on in flight. It would have already been on.

Thanks.


The fuel control in unexplainable. I would buy that somebody in the recovery team turned it off to confuse the issue before I would believe the Manchurian Flight Instructor.

Same here. The Manchurian flight instructor theory is a bit far-fetched. (but of course, possible)


That said, I believe that Virginia Tech was most definately a Manchurian scenario.

I wonder if they chose a Korean candidate for dramatic effect. (in the original movie, the Manchurian candidate was brainwashed in Korea.)



[edit on 23/4/07 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 02:19 AM
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A few more anomalies (according to the video)

1. ABC news had learned the location of the wreckage (ELT?) yet the Coast Guard was still some distance to the South on a wild goose chase.

2. Mr. Gergen told the news (forget which one) that he had been working at the control tower and got a call from Jr. before the plane went down. This testimony was never heard again and the final report claims that they weren’t any contact with the tower at that time. Part of a cover-up?

3. The Search and Rescue was delayed 15 hours. Mr. Lear, could this be due to the weather at the time or do they usually wait for daybreak to commence a search and rescue?

Finally, in your opinion, is there a conspiracy behind the death of JFK jr.?

EDIT: Found this...
www.whatreallyhappened.com...

I think there's enough here to warrant making a thread. There doesn't seem to be tons of threads about it.


[edit on 23/4/07 by ConspiracyNut23]



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 04:35 AM
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I'd like to ask John if my questions are too sensitive or something else?
If it is the case then would like to get my reply on U2U if possible.
On the other hand if it is not for comment just "I'd not comment it now" would be enough.
Surely I belive that you really haven't got time to answer all our questions especially if it is about what snacks do ETs eat... But I think that my questions are much more curious and researchable.
Of course it's not a problem, just a little reminder.


Thankz John



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Triad979


Mr. John, if You have had any contact and info from late Ron Rummel and his papers what do you think about what is said above???
I think it is quite cruical question...


I had no contact with Ron. On looking at his information I wonder why not.


My questions are real as firm ground and quite serious.
Is it true what you've said, and what do you think now after 10 years or more about Ron's qouting of yours from his magazine Alien Digest vol. 1???


Its true what I said but I have changed my views since that time. I don't believe that very many of the 100 or so alien species visiting earth are any threat. Those that do represent a threat are dealt with by other aliens species.


It is extraordinary information and you could tell me (us) near truth as it is possible now after 10 or more years of this article...

Thankz and good to be in position to talk to experienced researchers like You...


If you have anymore specific questions I will do my best to answer them.



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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That said, I believe that Virginia Tech was most definately a Manchurian scenario.

Thanks for the link, the video was very well done.



what purpose would it hold to have a manchurian mass murderer?

thanks



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by rocksolid


That said, I believe that Virginia Tech was most definately a Manchurian scenario.
Thanks for the link, the video was very well done.


what purpose would it hold to have a manchurian mass murderer?
thanks






I have seen what I think to be the reason pop up here and there but I will wait until it explodes (if it ever does) before I comment on it. Thanks.


niv

posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 12:11 PM
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John, I've come across this article which is critical of your views. I was wondering what your response would be to the portions discussing you.

Incidentally, to those who haven't seen this I thought it worth the read, even though it's lengthy. This is not because, or in spite of, the material related to John Lear but because of the analysis of recent research history in general.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by niv
John, I've come across this article which is critical of your views. I was wondering what your response would be to the portions discussing you.

Incidentally, to those who haven't seen this I thought it worth the read, even though it's lengthy. This is not because, or in spite of, the material related to John Lear but because of the analysis of recent research history in general.




Niv, Don Ecker has been a friend for many years. I don't have time to read the article (although I quickly scanned it). Would you be so kind as the post the specific parts of the article that you would like me to respond to. (My quick scan led me to believe that this is just a summary of all the stuff he has written for UFO Magazine over the past 20 years). Thanks. (I am buried in paperwork for the Bureau of Land Management on issues concerning my mine.)


niv

posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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The article may be a rehash of old arguments; I haven't read enough of UFO Magazine to know what he has previously said. Certainly the bulk of his comments about you are in the republished article at the very end of the report. He does discuss your ideas around page 3 for a few pages and then sporadically elsewhere.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 01:37 PM
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page 3 of the pdf document:
Excerpt:
"HOWEVER … when one reads Lear’s
“hypothesis” you have to wonder if he was smoking something other than his pipe
tobacco because it reads like the wildest science fiction you’ve ever encountered."
pdf

you may want to adress this, seems like he is saying some things about your
character?

and page 45:
"As I write this paper, the most
recent egregious example of slip shod editorial decisions was allowing one wind-bag
columnist to revisit one of the biggest hoaxes in recent memory by allowing the inclusion
of the “Dulce alien base shoot out with U.S. Forces in 1979!” (With neither Birnes wife
especially, or Birnes being aware of the last 20 odd years of UFO history, this type of
egregious error is routinely made.) This came from the John Lear/Paul Bennowitz
disinformation all the way back to 1987, and has been effectively shown to be total crap!"
sheesh...


[edit on 24-4-2007 by WhiteWash]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteWash

page 3 of the pdf document:
Excerpt:
"HOWEVER … when one reads Lear’s
“hypothesis” you have to wonder if he was smoking something other than his pipe
tobacco because it reads like the wildest science fiction you’ve ever encountered."
pdf

you may want to adress this, seems like he is saying some things about your
character?



The "Hypothesis " was certainly considered wild in those days (1987). I switched from a pipe to cigars in 1988 so you can tell how long ago that was written. Incidentally I prefer Macanudo Hyde Park in Maduro. (If anybody wants to send me a box Holt's Cigar in Philly has the best price.) As to my character...everbody gets a shot.



and page 45:
"As I write this paper, the most
recent egregious example of slip shod editorial decisions was allowing one wind-bag
columnist to revisit one of the biggest hoaxes in recent memory by allowing the inclusion
of the “Dulce alien base shoot out with U.S. Forces in 1979!” (With neither Birnes wife
especially, or Birnes being aware of the last 20 odd years of UFO history, this type of
egregious error is routinely made.) This came from the John Lear/Paul Bennowitz
disinformation all the way back to 1987, and has been effectively shown to be total crap!"
sheesh...



If this was written by Don Ecker (I don't know which columnist he is refering to) you should consider that Don Ecker billed himself "The Greatest UFO Researcher in History." Therefore we should carefully consider what he has to say.


niv

posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 02:27 PM
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What did he mean by the "John Lear/Paul Bennowitz
disinformation" He doesn't link you to disinformation anywhere else in the article, although I know that some believe that Bennowitz was a target of government disinformation about the Dulce facility such as been written about in Project Beta.

Edited for typos

[edit on 24-4-2007 by niv]

[edit on 24-4-2007 by niv]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by niv
What did he mean by the "John Lear/Paul Bennowitz
disinformation" He doesn't link you to disinformation anywhere else in the article, although I know that some believe that Bennowitz was a target of government disinformation about the Dulce facility such as been written about in Project Beta.





I think he linked me with Paul because I stayed with Paul and his wife at their house in Albuquerque for a few days (back in 1987) and when I left he gave me Myrna Hansens head x-ray that howed the implant. I always felt that Paul was telling the truth as did Col Ernie Edwards who I also met with Paul. And I always made it clear in any interview that I believed what Paul had told us which included stories about Dulce. I kept in touch with Paul for a while and then didn't hear from him until a few years ago when he called and asked me to come visit him. I think that may have been about 10 years ago I can't remember. I didn't make the effort to go to Albuquerque to see him and he died shortly after. I regret not having made that trip because I think he would have given me all of his film and records.


niv

posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 02:48 PM
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So you don't buy the theory in Project Beta about the disinformation project using Cooper? I've read the book but wasn't convinced of much of anything.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by niv
So you don't buy the theory in Project Beta about the disinformation project using Cooper? I've read the book but wasn't convinced of much of anything.



Of course not. First of all Cooper only knew what I told him about Bennewitz. He never went there and never met Paul. Second, Doty was just trying to use Moore for damage control.

Really interesting stuff was going on like the crash on Archuletta of the atomic ship, Valdez' investigation of the crash, McCampbells investigation (I have a copy of McCampbells hand written original notes) on Hansen. I met with, talked with and got to know USAF Col. Edwards very well. There was no disinformation campaign going on that he knew about. This was about the time that the "black ship' coming from somewhere shut the entire FAA Albuquerque radar system down for several hours.

Even Edwards knew about the 'black ship' whatever the heck it was.

Doty was a small cog in AFOSI and has alway been involved in disinfo whether its about Bennewitz or Serpo. He has a retirement check to watch out for so I don't blame him for anything he does.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 04:19 PM
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John
I read in this thread that you do in fact believe that Haarp is being used to control the weather. I believe that also, and I also believe that Haarp is based upon at least in part, the work of Nikola Tesla.
What Can you tell us about this? Do you believe Haarp is based upon the Tesla technology of Tesla's "Death/Peace Beam" in any way?
Do you think that the work of Tesla has anything to do with:
H.A.A.R.P. , The Philadelphia Experiment, The Montauk Project, or US experimentation of antigravity and time travel, etc?
Thanks in advance.



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