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reply posted on 31-10-2006 @ 11:09 AM by Remirah
Sorry to do this to everyone buon this thread but i'd like ti invite Mr Lear to the forum www.abovetopsecret.com... to take a look at ome footprints on the martian surface.

obviously, everyone is welcome to have a look and give an opinion but i was hoping Mr Lear would give his thoughts as his thoughts are respected by most.

Remirah.


reply posted on 2-11-2006 @ 09:46 PM by i_want_to_believe
John and/or Sleeper,

Just curious if you have read this and what do you think?


search.think-aboutit.com...

This is pretty interesting stuff. Really makes you sick though to think that OUR government would do something like that though.

I remember reading something like this before.

Thanks for your time!

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reply posted on 18-11-2006 @ 08:52 AM by Synergy
I’ve read everything in this thread but still the question I find very interesting hasn’t been asked yet. I will be more objective than I use to be in my posts just to save you time, John. Hope you can answer some of them.

I’m very interested in the extraterrestrial being called “Nordic”. And here is a small amount of my total amount of the questions I’ve got concerning those beings:

•Do you know anything more about their appearance other than that they’ve got light-blue glowing eyes and blonde hair?

•Do you know anything about their intelligence and how their intelligence works compared to ours?

•Do you know if they are observing the activities on Earth?

•Why do you think they won’t interact with us? Perhaps they couldn’t care less what’s happening to us. Or perhaps they don’t think we deserve their presence out of arrogance?

•Do you think they feel sorry for humanity by looking at how much some of us really suffer? It affects me that some people just have to experience such a bad luck in their lives when other people live through life as it was a wonderful dream.

•Do you know what their view of a human is like? Do they see us as infants, as equivalents or as lemmings?

•Do you know if they need to itch themselves, or if they need to cough, visit the wc, can they cry, can they laugh?

•Is a human able to look at a Nordic in a normal way or would that make us terrified as many other examples would do? And if we get terrified and start crying has it been reported that such being has attempted to calm and console the human?

That's some of the questions and I hope more than me find them interesting.

/Synergy


reply posted on 18-11-2006 @ 10:31 AM by johnlear
Originally posted by Synergy

I’ve read everything in this thread but still the question I find very interesting hasn’t been asked yet. I will be more objective than I use to be in my posts just to save you time, John. Hope you can answer some of them.

I’m very interested in the extraterrestrial being called “Nordic”. And here is a small amount of my total amount of the questions I’ve got concerning those beings:

•Do you know anything more about their appearance other than that they’ve got light-blue glowing eyes and blonde hair?


Some or all of them have pupils that are vertical slits.

Do you know anything about their intelligence and how their intelligence works compared to ours?


no.

Do you know if they are observing the activities on Earth?


They are here is all I know.

Why do you think they won’t interact with us? Perhaps they couldn’t care less what’s happening to us. Or perhaps they don’t think we deserve their presence out of arrogance?


They interact daily with thousands. But not you or me. Why not? Don't know.

Do you think they feel sorry for humanity by looking at how much some of us really suffer? It affects me that some people just have to experience such a bad luck in their lives when other people live through life as it was a wonderful dream.


As sleeper says "everything is an illusion". No sense in feeling sorry for an illusion any more than you feel sorry for unfortunate/unlucky characters in a movie.

Do you know what their view of a human is like? Do they see us as infants, as equivalents or as lemmings?


Probably both but I am just speculating.

Do you know if they need to itch themselves, or if they need to cough, visit the wc, can they cry, can they laugh?


Don't know.

Is a human able to look at a Nordic in a normal way or would that make us terrified as many other examples would do? And if we get terrified and start crying has it been reported.


The only person I knew that ever met, or actually intereacted with a Nordic was Bob Oechsler who used to be active in the UFO field. He told me an incredible story that began with entering an EG&G building back east, (Virginia I think) and ended up with being flown to a huge platform out in the Gulf 100 or so miles south of Eglin AFB where the government had a radar surveillance facility that covered the world. There were several hangars constructed on this platform (the platforms he estimated as 4 or 5 acres in size). The facility was operated by Norad with Norad personnel all in 'crisp' uniform.

The evening before Oechsler was taken to this facility by a Norad helicopter from the Houston area he was in a bar in Houston and became aware of someone in the bar searching through his (Bob's) mind for something. He eventually caught a glimpse of a tall man with blonde hair, and blue eyes with pupils that were vertical slits. He felt felt the 'Nordic' remove apiece of information from his mind that came out in a 'doughnut shape'. He never found out what the information might of been or who the tall blonde was.

I think this whole story is on the web somwhere. I remember Bob telling me the story on the phone sometime during the first 2 weeks in August of 1989 just after the incident happened. I took a page or so of notes. I was in Detroit in ground school for Rosenbalm Aviation.


reply posted on 18-11-2006 @ 12:39 PM by johnlear
Originally posted by jaguarmike


John, I gotta ask the dangerous question.


No danger here.

Why? What's the prize here?


Don't know what the prize is. There are over 100 different alien species visiting earth. Most have different agendas. Some supposedly want the earthgirls (or at least the pretty ones.) Some say the battle is for the human souls. Its doubtful that any of us will ever know the big picture. If there is a big picture.

What are Nordics doing here if it's all an illusion (in the sense that the majority of human life is reptitive behavior and the majority doesn't know how old their prisoned-spirit really is) and we're just cattle.


I used to think we were just cattle in the sense of being grown, fed and raised for consumption of some kind. But according to Sleeper (and more of a less threatening scenario) we are just evolving entities trying to learn how to get along with the adults in the universe.

The alien (the mocking joke is for fun, I do respect him, and you know who i'm talking about John) on ATs is saying he's been sent here to subtly give new ideas, but why not just push us in the right direction with the only group I know of that can free you spiritually so you can do the stuff the above mentioned did to get here(Scientology is the group that can do this).


Scientology is just another religion. But for the rich. A cheaper way to get rid of your engrams is to go to confession. Another is to find a partner "who understands you". (This usually only lasts a couple of years and can end up being more expensive that the $350K Scientology wants to tell you your going to end up in a volcano.) People need religion because they have to believe that 'someone is in charge', someone that they can appeal to when things go wrong. (God, please help me....) Someone they can thank when things go right. (Thank you Lord....). Someone they can revere when their enemies have been stomped. (There is a God!)

What's the prize?


Most aliens want a date with Angelina Jolie but are too respectful of our customs to ask her at this time.

Why Earth?


Girls from Venus are gorgeous but unbelievably rude.


reply posted on 18-11-2006 @ 02:55 PM by jaguarmike
John, how about we start with not having to go to the soul collector in the first place. what about choosing any body you want once you "die"? I'll tell you John, it's a funny feeling looking at a kid knowing it's older than you are.

I like this review from amazon.com:


www.amazon.com...

" Operating Manual for an Immortal Spiritual Being, January 22, 2002
Reviewer: "jefff8" (Tujunga, CA USA) - See all my reviews
What are the qualities and attributes and capabilities of the Human Spirit? What exactly is the Physical Universe? You were immensely powerful once, so what happened? How can you rise to greater heights of awareness and ability and once again become the YOU that you actually are? This book by L. Ron Hubbard embraces the essence of Scientology. You need this information.
Scientology 8-8008 was originally written by Hubbard in London in October 1952 as the textbook for an upcoming series of lectures which he delivered to students in Philadelphia in December of that year.

The title of this book, "Scientology 8-8008" is actually a formulaic/symbolic statement of the Goal of Scientology. Translated it means: "The attainment of Infinity by reducing the apparent infinity of the Physical Universe to "0" and then taking the apparent "0" value of one's own universe and increasing it to Infinity". (An "8" laid on its side is the symbol for infinity).

Scientology 8-8008 is the best book you will ever read on Spirituality and your Native Abilities. It really does contain the Truth that will set you Free."




John, i'm not like the other people in religion on the quest to say "my way is right if you don't believe it to hell with you!" I'm not here to say this is right for you, far from it. That is a decision you make yourself. I just know this method works, and am presenting it to you, because you know the horrible condition we are in as homo sapien better than most. Here is the way out of it.


p.s. if you think soul collectors on the moon and grey aliens are interesting, you haven't seen anything yet. And no, i'm not talking about volcanoes ;-)


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reply posted on 24-11-2006 @ 09:07 PM by Telos
Hi John

I was just curious if you ever heard about this: www.cassiopaea.org...
Basically talks about Krill papers and your name is mentioned alot. Trust me, is worth reading it. Don't know if is part of Matrix III by V.V. or just e 'analysis' done by somebody else. But has some interesting points.


reply posted on 3-12-2006 @ 04:08 PM by smallpeeps
If the above is true, then truly it is currently above top secret.


But seriously, this focus on Scientology teachings is silly and dangerous. Scientology is black magic, pure and simple. Even Hubbard's own nigh-coathanger-aborted son said so in Penthouse magazine:

www.rickross.com...


Penthouse: Did he write the book off the top of his head? Did he do any real research?


Hubbard: No research at all. When he has answered that question over the years, his answer has changed according to which biography he was writing. Sometimes he used to write a new biography every week. He usually said that he had put thirty years of research into the book. But no, he did not. What he did, reaily, was take bits and pieces from other people and put them together in a blender and stir them all up --and out came Dianetics! All the examples in the book --some 200 "real-life experiences" --were just the result of his obsessions with abortions and unconscious states... In fact, the vast majority of those incidents were invented off the top of his head. The rest stem from his own secret life, which was deeply involved in the occult and black-magic. That involvement goes back to when he was sixteen, living in Washington. D.C. He got hold of the book by Alistair Crowley called The Book of Law. He was very interested in several things that were the creation of what some people call the Moon Child. It was basically an attempt to create an immaculate conception --except by Satan rather than by God. Another important idea was the creation of what they call embryo implants --of getting a satanic or demonic spirit to inhabit the body of a fetus. This would come about as a result of black-magic rituals, which included the use of hypnosis, drugs, and other dangerous and destructive practices. One of the important things was to destroy the evidence if you failed at this immaculate conception. That's how my father became obsessed with abortions. I have a memory of this that goes back to when I was six years old. It is certainly a problem for my father and for Scientology that I rememoer this.

Read the interview for yourself or buy the issue off EBay.

Elron understood some truths about the soul but he made up a system to break people down and control them. Check out Zedd's blog for a recent post about Scientology training and its absurdity. Just know that the techniques you see in this video are very real and give one complete power over another human or soul:

blog.abovetopsecret.com...
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