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reply posted on 13-10-2006 @ 05:43 AM by RiotComing
Just bumping this post from a few pages back for John's attention (forgive me if I can't find a response).. zero-point energy production - why do you see this as a scam?

Originally posted by RiotComing
I have a question for John, and it's regarding the video interview with yourself, featured on this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I was surprised to hear you describe the whole reverse-engineered antigravity / free energy thing, as promoted by the likes of Dr Steven Greer etc, as a scam. I would be interested to know what has made you come to that conclusion. Having picked the brains of the likes of Bob Lazar and his take on the propulsion system, are you saying that it's impossible to extract free energy from the quantum vacuum - that you need the Element 115 to facilitate the reaction / energy conversion? In other words, it's impossible to transform every electrical device on our planet today because you need something like 115 as a reactor? In other words, it's impossible to create free energy out of thin air, therefore is a scam?

I'm just trying to see where yourself, Bob Lazar, Steven Greer etc draw their lines in the sand, to help understand the overall picture in layman's terms. Because, if this really is a scam and Dr Greer is seeking wealthy investors / philanthropists to allegedly kick this technology into the mainstream and off the fossil fuels, then where does this leave the credibility for the Disclosure Project and Dr Greer if he's just peddling dreams and half-truths?

Interested in your thoughts on this. Cheers, RC



reply posted on 13-10-2006 @ 01:19 PM by Alpha Grey
John,
What knowledge do you have of the infamous
TR3-B that so many talk about. Have you ever heard anything about it during your travels ?? Supposedly it is Anti-Grav and has amazing capabilites. Can you elaborate ??

Thanks for your time John !


reply posted on 13-10-2006 @ 07:42 PM by johnlear
Originally posted by Alpha Grey


John,
What knowledge do you have of the infamous
TR3-B that so many talk about. Have you ever heard anything about it during your travels ?? Supposedly it is Anti-Grav and has amazing capabilites. Can you elaborate ??

Thanks for your time John !


The photo in your post was not the TR3-B. The 'alleged' TR3-B was, I think the F-19. And here is what I know about the F-19:

The F-19 which is claimed not to exist by all the 'experts' was designed in the early 70’s (along with the F-117A) by Lockheed for the U.S. Navy. It was funded not as an airplane but as something else which was to help keep its secrecy. Israel received several of these aircraft and the U.S. Navy used the rest on its Carriers. There are still several operating on the USS Ronald Reagan and other carriers.

The story of the F-19 of how and why it came to be and why it is such a secret is long and complex and includes the infiltration of the Lockheed Skunkworks by Mossad through their mole Ben Rich as early as 1954. Rich, a naturalized U.S. Citizen who was born in the Philippines to a prominent Jewish family and who went to work for the Lockheed Skunkworks in 1954, took over the Skunkworks after Kelly Johnson retired in 1975. Air Force General Robert (Bobby) Bond, vice commander of Air Force Systems Command accidentally discovered the F-19 program in 1977 and was killed flying it in 1984. The cover story is that Gen. Bond was killed in a Mig-23 which is not true. General Bond was killed flying an F-19.

In the early 70’s Lockheed proposed a stealth aircraft to the U.S. Navy to be produced in conjunction with the F-117A. The Skunkworks proposed a budget scam that appealed to the Navy not realizing (or maybe in conjunction with) the Mossad who had complete control of the Skunkworks through their mole, head of Advanced Development Projects, Ben Rich. The budget scam provided money for 62 F-19 airframes which would be co-developed with the F-117a using a commonality of parts including engines, landing gear, center section structure etc. which were charged to the Air Force as ‘spares’ but in fact used by the F-19. The two aircraft however looked different but were amazingly similar in structure. The F-19 was the same size, but used a delta, drooped wing which has often been called the TR-3A.

The plan was to have both aircraft, the F-117A and F-19 go down an assembly line at Lockheed Skunk works in Burbank separated by a huge metal curtain. The work force for each airplane was kept totally independent so that very few on either side of the curtain were supposed to know what was going on, on the other side. Of course each work force knew exactly what was going on and some tried to change to the other side when their work was completely on their side. They were told ‘no’ that nobody was to transfer between aircraft. 62 F-19’s were built. Sometime during production in 1977 Gen. Bond, vice commander of Air Force System Command made an inspection tour of the Skunk works suspecting that something ‘fishy’ was going on and discovered the dual program. (See ‘Skunk Works’, Ben Rich & Leo Janos, page 48-49, Little, Brown and Company ISBN 0-3166-74330-5) Gen. Bond raged within the Air Force and Pentagon until he realized that all armed services had been penetrated by Mossad. Eventually both airplanes were produced, flown and delivered.

At one point the F-19 had a very serious stability problem which was discovered late in the program. As it took time to correct the problem almost the whole fleet which had already been produced had to be stored. The storage area was the 2 large square hangars just south of the F-117A hangars at the Tonopah Test Range. In 1984 Gen. Bond was invited to fly the F-19. On April 26, 1984 Gen. Bond suited up (allegedly at Groom Lake) and took off for the first of 2 flights. He crashed minutes later very close to highway 95 near Little Skull Mountain. Someone had rigged the stability system back to its original uncorrected state causing Gen. Bond to lose control, crash and die. It was a simple case of murder. Gen. Bond was murdered to help him keep his mouth shut about Mossads’ infiltration of the Pentagon, all Armed Forces Services, and the entire Military Industrial Complex. As far as I know many of the F-19’s are still in use.

I have 3 artists’ rendition of the F-19 on the wall in my den. The reason I have them there is because occasionally a guest will look at the pictures and ask if I know what it is. My answer is always, "Do you?" In that manner I have obtained 3 additional sources to the existence of the F-19. Other sources I have for the existence of the F-19 include a gentleman who worked on the F-19 assembly line, a Lockheed test pilot (he did not fly the F-19, but knew about it) and a Navy Seal Team member who saw one on an aircraft carrier where they are deployed. One day I will write the whole story. The exposure of the F-19 would lead to those who control the Skunkworks, all of its secret projects and then how several Boeing 757/767’s were modified to be remotely controlled and crashed into the World Trade Center creating the Terrorist Hoax of 911.

I posted this story on another thread as 'fiction' but I believe it to be true.
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