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reply posted on 10-7-2006 @ 11:48 AM by missed_gear
Originally posted by Access Denied
Besides, there's nothing special about it.


Purported findings exist claiming elements 115-118 have a cumulative Gravity A wave which extends past the perimeter of the atom (a theoretical property of hypermassive elements). The gravity A wave possesses frequency and amplitude which can be accessed, directed, measured and amplified and not just simply for propulsion purposes but also for imaging, energy transmission/generation and communication.

This is significant if true.

The applications of accessible gravitational waves has been under serious study for over forty years and was first suggested by Poincare in the early 1900’s and expanded upon by Einstein and later by nobel prize winners Hulse and Taylor who validated Einstein’s theory. Most studies today employ the use of superconductors generating both high and low frequency accessible gravitational waves or celestial generated gravitational waves such as at LIGO.

Oddly, this possible finding also supports the claims of Bob Lazar which he made long before the element had been reported as created/observed. Additionally, there is a belief by a few that the currently B-2 uses technology from this science etc. Perhaps it is all fiction, but there are many theories and a few examples that exist today suggesting the very real possibilities.



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reply posted on 11-7-2006 @ 03:42 PM by Ectoterrestrial
John,

Thank you for typing up your notes on mass units. That is interesting for us to look at. Can you think of, or do you know of, any reproducible experiments that we could do (without invading a collider or obtaining 115) to test any of the SMU or 1/3 charge claims?

And look up anyway, just because you can.

Anyways, you should all be aware that when a publically open project funded by certain government agencies is particularly successful, it enters a second phase in which those people and institutions who are not willing to go black are cut from applying for that round of funding. Many good ideas go into the blackhole that way, as scientists need money to take their kids to see Superman. Often, public institutions are effectively disallowed in this phase, at which time the research dissappears into the MIC. Perfectly legit secrecy if not abused.

Furthermore, many government activities are compartmentalized into private companies acting as subsidiaries and contractors. So even if Lazar was a pimp, there is still a finite probability that the 'contractor' he was working for as a technician was doing more than mopping floors.

I am supposedly a professional scientist, and I do my best. But I was told by a person of significant need to know that if I really wanted to do anything new, I needed to be working on black projects.

As a result, the idea that science, in particular, engineered science, is far more advanced in the black world than in the civilian world is a fact to me. (Or a story and an opinion from your perspective.) The only thing I don't know is the magnitude of that technological distortion.

Does peer review serve to police free thinking? Hell yes. Sadly, it does. On the other hand, as a relatively unsuccessful scientist, it is too easy to fall into the trap of blaming the 'mainstream' for rejecting ones ideas. Reproducibility is the key to meaningful science.

It seems that John believes that this gap is huge. Is there someway, then, to test the gap itself. If it is that big, I would think there might be. Which question do we have to ask you, John?

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reply posted on 12-7-2006 @ 08:23 AM by Matyas
Actually I think Ecto has it really going on. There are a few progressives in here. Maybe we should be asking him the questions!

John, this is all too fascinating. You are a catalyst for change. My thesis is since we cannot absolutely prove with observation and corrobating evidence the existence of other life beyond our biosphere, our life is therefore a singularly unique phenomena of the morphogenetic field. Certain theories can support my thesis both directly and indirectly, the latter such as multiple worlds and the former such as nonexistence of space/time. But as theories they are not absolutely proveable.

Your antithesis, based upon observation and corrobating evidence that is still not absolutely proveable assumes the opposite camp. The bearing it has on my thesis is about as interactive as two deaf and blind men passing in the middle of the night. So adopting the synthesis results in my viewpoint shifting from one of observation to the new perspective of the observer. In the synthesis I become the paradox living in a quasistable macroquantum state accepting both cases as factual.

Now if no one opens the door on me I'll be fine...


reply posted on 12-7-2006 @ 10:36 AM by johnlear
Originally posted by Matyas
Actually I think Ecto has it really going on. There are a few progressives in here. Maybe we should be asking him the questions!

John, this is all too fascinating. You are a catalyst for change. My thesis is since we cannot absolutely prove with observation and corrobating evidence the existence of other life beyond our biosphere, our life is therefore a singularly unique phenomena of the morphogenetic field. Certain theories can support my thesis both directly and indirectly, the latter such as multiple worlds and the former such as nonexistence of space/time. But as theories they are not absolutely proveable.

Your antithesis, based upon observation and corrobating evidence that is still not absolutely proveable assumes the opposite camp. The bearing it has on my thesis is about as interactive as two deaf and blind men passing in the middle of the night. So adopting the synthesis results in my viewpoint shifting from one of observation to the new perspective of the observer. In the synthesis I become the paradox living in a quasistable macroquantum state accepting both cases as factual.

Now if no one opens the door on me I'll be fine...




....creeeeaaaakkkkk.....there, Matyas, is that better? Matyas? Matyas?


reply posted on 12-7-2006 @ 10:40 AM by Ectoterrestrial

ROTFLMAO

If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the test only once.


I'm not following you here. Are you talking about pseudo-science, or the state-of-the-art in LPUs (Least Publishable Units)?

But seriously, I'm really curious if there is some way to test for a gap. Some knee-jerk reflex or something.....

As for asking ME the questions, bad idea. John and others might have insight into 115.

I was just trying to point out that some of the ascerbic anti-lazar claims in the linked timelines insinuate untriths. In particular, being part of a contractor does not mean you aren't in deep. In fact, it may be the other way around.

And peer-review does squash good ideas sometimes. It can literally take 2 decades of fighting just to push a good idea through if it has a negative taste to the "ego gratification vector of the peer cluster." I've known some brilliant people in my field with highly accepted ideas who had to spend 20 years getting papers rejected just to push through an idea. And then there are the regional and national fights that continue to fracture what both sides claim to be 'the truth.' Science isn't a textbook. It just isn't that simple.

I'm not claiming to believe Lazar. But if I let some character assassination push him out of my mind, I would be being a lazy juror. Stories are stories. Worthy of observation.

I'm not going to rattle on about this anymore, the topic is 115. But it gets my goat when I see people make claims like 'he worked for a contractor.' Lol!

If 115 has the properties John and Bob assert to have observed, and people and others are using it in our general vicinity, could we detect its use?
I know GR physicists have been pushing for years to get funding for their orbitting rod and satellite cluster experiments, to no avail. Is there something we could do on the ground?

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