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Hey Canadiens what do you think of Americans

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posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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Ha, ha, ha thats right the first thread in this forum has been started by a yankee. Take that Canucks
Seriously I'm starting this thread because I've noticed alot hostility between the Canadiens and Americans on this forum. So I'd like to ask the Canucks on this site what they think of the US(the government, the people and the culture).

I'm asking Canadiens this because culturally they're the most closely related to Americans then anyother people on the planet.




posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 04:09 PM
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First of all: Woohoo! We finally got our own forum. Complete with the Air Canada logo for an icon.


I'm slightly hesitant to respond because I have hazy memories of the last thread like this. But what the heck, I haven't been chased by any angry villagers with pitchforks lately.


I think Americans have cute accents.

I find Americans to be more outgoing and gregarious than Canadians. This is often mistaken for being loud and boisterous. We, on the other hand, have a reputation for being polite and reserved. Example: While disembarking a flight in Canada, you will quite often find yourself standing there with 100 other people, with nobody getting off the plane. We're all too busy standing there telling each other to go ahead. :shk:

Being Canadian, I find the reluctance to experiment with what you consider socialist programs, such as universal health care, interesting and just a bit of that old 'better dead than red' kneejerk reaction. For Canadians, this is one of the things we are proudest of and many Americans make fun of our program and tell us how awful we have it.

My biggest issue with the US government is a lack of consistency. The State Dept. is busy condemning countries for Human Rights abuses, while other branches are committing the same acts (the ones in the pictures, not claims made) with impunity. Also, the US wants to be all about free trade, which as a capitalistic country is to be expected. The only problem is when free trade doesn't go the way the US wants it too, it becomes about fair trade. Then it goes straight to protectionist from there. I honestly don't mind if protectionism (which is the conservative ideal) is the way the US wants to go. Just be upfront about it.

That, and the fact that many Americans think that 'Uh-huh' means 'You're welcome'. It doesn't and for those who don't get this little Americanism (which I finally did but it took a while) it can make Americans come across as rude. Yes, it's silly, but it's my little pet peeve about Americans.

I suppose that I don't really think of the US as having much of a culture. Sorry about that. You have Hollywood, fast food, fast cars and Elvis. I like all of these things, but I don't really look at them as 'cultural'. More like consumables. Not that we are any better on that count. The only things I can think of that would be considered Canadian culture are Inuit and First Nation arts, Tim Hortons, hockey, beer and Mounties. And maybe maple syrup candies.

I find the calling of Canada liberal by conservative US pundits to be laughable. The US is far more liberal than Canada has ever been. Between your civil war, breaking away from the crown, the right to bear arms and the embracing of regime change, the US is one of the most liberal countries on the planet.

I like most of the Americans I have ever met, I enjoy going to the US to visit my friends and family and you have some really gorgeous scenery. My bottom line on the US is this: Nice country to visit, but I don't want to live there. I love Canada too much to ever live anywhere else.



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by danwild6
So I'd like to ask the Canucks on this site what they think of the US(the government, the people and the culture).

I'm asking Canadiens this because culturally they're the most closely related to Americans then anyother people on the planet.


Wow, where to start?

The govenrment? It SUCKS. Not just because Bush is in, well, not just but your whole political system is adversarial. Adversarial isn't always bad BUT you're being adversarial with EACH OTHER.
Or system sucks too but there's less dedication to a party here. Personally I've voted for all 3 major political parties. Yup, I voted Conservative once. Don't be confused by the title, the Liberals are the same.

The people? You're going to get good and bad everywhere but, as with all things, the good usually outweighs the bad. This is the case here. Americans are proud, confident, unbending(not always a good thing) but if I had to encapuslate Americans in one word, I would say LOYAL.

The culture? Well, it's pretty diverse. You've got pretty much everything. It's up to the individual to pick and choose. Ivy Leagues, San Fran, NY, Chitown, Florida, LA, etc. You mention those places and a certain picture comes to mind. BTW, a GREAT big thanks for the NFL.
The Superbowl may not be as big as the Olympics or World Cup but we've got it every year, damn near in every country.



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 04:59 PM
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And what do you do with it? Talk about Americans...


We so pwn you guys... And no, you can't have Lord stanley's Cup back either.


p.s. Wendy's International owns Tim Horton's as well...

[edit on 7/7/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
BTW, a GREAT big thanks for the NFL.
The Superbowl may not be as big as the Olympics or World Cup but we've got it every year, damn near in every country.


Your'e welcome


I'm sorry, I had to throw that out there.

Yes, the superbowl is great...with great commercials


Sporty

BTW: Wear the fox hat...yeah, you know what I'm talking about


[edit on 7/7/2006 by SportyMB]



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
p.s. Wendy's International owns Tim Horton's as well...

That's part of the sneaky Canadian plan to export our culture to the US and show you what real doughnuts taste like. Krispy Kreme is going down.....

The thing that really sucks about the Superbowl (besides the fact that it's the Superbowl) is that we don't get the cool commercials with it. Also, the Packers should be there every year. I don't get many opportunities to wear my cheesehead. It's not just a hat! If you turn it upside down there are beer holders and a place for your nachos.



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by danwild6

I've noticed alot hostility between the Canadiens and Americans on this forum.


I haven’t noticed that. This goes against “Canadian character” IMO.
Then again I don’t frequent PTS that much.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 01:35 PM
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I think the fact that you can't spell canadian says most of it right there. I for one am thankfull for the general ignorance of amaricianse about CANADIANS. The less influence they have on us the better. I don't say this with any hatred, I just Love canada, And find most of the reasons i do - are absent in amerikia. I live on the west coast, and just a few short hours away is seeattle. For me it's kind of like being in a twighlight zone. The general terrain is the same, the ocean, the green, but something is so different. it's creepy, Can't put my finger on it - just the vibe is completely different. I'm sure it's even more so for someone living in toronto, and going to knew yorke.

yes our dollar is called looney..ha ha.oh. yes funny money..ho ho.

I have to go now, if i want to get accross the frozen tundra to the supply store, i'm going to have to make sure the sleigh is ready and the dogs are fed.

God bless Amerikia.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by tasteslikethunder
I think the fact that you can't spell canadian says most of it right there. I for one am thankfull for the general ignorance of amaricianse about CANADIANS.

Cut the poor guy some slack, why don't you. Or at least spell American right when giving him crap for his spelling. Maybe he was trying to get opinions from the Habs. I doubt there are any of them on here, so it is up to us to answer his questions.



I've always thought of TO as one of our more 'American' cities. They have more of that 'Go, go, go' attitude common to Americans as opposed to our West Coast 'Whatever, I'll get there when I'm done golfing' attitude.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by tasteslikethunder
For me it's kind of like being in a twighlight zone. The general terrain is the same, the ocean, the green, but something is so different. it's creepy, Can't put my finger on it - just the vibe is completely different.


It's all of the rain dude.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Duzey
I've always thought of TO as one of our more 'American' cities. They have more of that 'Go, go, go' attitude common to Americans as opposed to our West Coast 'Whatever, I'll get there when I'm done golfing' attitude.


OK, TO'ites, don't give me any crap for this because it is true. TO is a NY wannabe. Just read the papers.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:08 PM
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ummm...

let's see.... hmmm... nope, thats how i meant to spell it. little thing called sarcasm, thats what us canadians do that amerikians often mistake for politeness or stupidity.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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Well, perhaps it is possible that in the spirit of cross-border relations and harmony, he chose to use the French spelling of Canadian. You know, cuz we're bilingual, and all.

Technically, he didn't misspell anything.

Quite often Canadians will take offense at things we don't really need to, because we expect Americans to be ignorant of Canada.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
TO is a NY wannabe. Just read the papers.

So very true, yet so very offensive to most Torontonians. The last time I commented about this to an ex-TOer in RL, I nearly got my head ripped off.


*ducks and waits for DE to come and kill us*



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Duzey

*ducks and waits for DE to come and kill us*


I've got your back, he's still the padawan.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by tasteslikethunder
I for one am thankfull for the general ignorance of amaricianse about CANADIANS. ... I have to go now, if i want to get accross the frozen tundra to the supply store, i'm going to have to make sure the sleigh is ready and the dogs are fed.

God bless Amerikia.


No, I think you are just ignorant of how Americans actually think of Canada. I mean, we know some of you don’t drive dog teams anymore; many of you come to America and purchase snow mobiles to drive across the frozen tundra a few times a year to get your supplies. BTW, how do you get internet service way out there in the middle of nowhere?


On a serious note misspelling someone’s country on accident is just showing your ignorance, or just a mistake.

Misspelling it on purpose would be "fighting words" if done in person. Ass.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
p.s. Wendy's International owns Tim Horton's as well...



Originally posted by Duzey
That's part of the sneaky Canadian plan to export our culture to the US and show you what real doughnuts taste like. Krispy Kreme is going down.....


Hmmm, the cultural expanse of Canada can be expressed in a glazed and a coffee? I'm shocked... Surely there's more?

A stray comedian?

Ham... Errr... Bacon?

Eh?

Celine Dion?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 03:57 PM
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Sorry for the misunderstanding tasteslikethunder. I have seen it spelled either Canadian or Canadien I guess the former would probably be better for this site. I don't condemn you for wanting to keep American influence on your culture as minimal as possible. Pat Buchanan summed up American pop culture as the good the bad and the ugly and a little to much of the ugly. I'd say take what you like and leave the rest( that goes for the rest of the world as well
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posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Hmmm, the cultural expanse of Canada can be expressed in a glazed and a coffee? I'm shocked... Surely there's more?


Well, we export hockey players that enable American teams to win the Cup.

sports.espn.go.com...

Only 9 of 24 this year but the Lightning won with 17 of 24.



Celine Dion?


She's Canadian? I thought she was a Grey.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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As a Canadian I've been very fortunate to live and work in many American cities, and vacationed in almost every state. I love the place like a second home, and think of the U.S. as our neighbours and allies. (edit: But I feel like kissing the ground when I get back to Canada)

We don't have a military that could even take on Lithuania, but America would stand behind us to the end against any adversary because of our resources. They need us for their economic future, and we need them our economic future.

I see a time where we form a type of union that Canada, United States, Mexico, Venezuala, and other countries have a common Dollar like Europe has the Euro.
I think the U.K. will also be a part of that union due to their ties to the U.S. and Canada.


[edit on 8-7-2006 by Country Soul]



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