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Some Good News in Iraq

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posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 03:44 PM

Originally posted by build319
You got a way above from me. Thanks for the reminder. You have been there you say? Can you write something about it? I would love to see your story and thought put here since so many of us (including myself) are completely ignorant of what is really going on there.

I wouldn't mind writing about my experiences in Afganistan, and Iraq. And I'll do my best to keep politics out of it. It'll probably take me a week or so to get it finished. I'd love to see semper write about his experiences over there as well. I am jealous though, I didn't make anything close to 180K, no where near it lol.

In case you're wondering one year in Afganistan, two in Iraq.

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 03:58 PM

Originally posted by Nygdan
Semper, I agree that there are good things going on, but lets be honest, the source, Advisor, is a magazine published by the US government and intended for US military personnel. If you feel that the NYT is propaganda, then how can Advisor be anything other than official propaganda??? I mean, the truth is between the newspaper headlines and the government publications, no?

That would be true, except a few of us on here have been there and I am VERY familiar with one of the Staff Sergeants that helps write the paper.

I'm not going to tell you that it's not a positive paper, it is. That is it's function. There is enough negative out there for all to read if they so wish. The Advisor is meant to be a positive read.

Of course it is edited for content. Yet I have NEVER read anything in there that I know to be a lie, or even remotely looks false. It's rather boring in fact, but it does give one a glimpse of everyday happenings that the main stream news wont print because it wont sell.


posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 06:19 PM
I actually started a thread that got next to no response, here's the link should anyone be interested.

The report was written by an Iranian journalist who has been in Iraq, and discusses the different perspective that exists between what is happening on the ground, and what is being reported in the US. As someone else in this thread has stated, it is nice to get the ground truth occasionally.

Another Iraq Perspective

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:25 PM

I wouldn't mind writing about my experiences in Afganistan, and Iraq. And I'll do my best to keep politics out of it. It'll probably take me a week or so to get it finished. I'd love to see semper write about his experiences over there as well. I am jealous though, I didn't make anything close to 180K, no where near it lol.

We didn't make 180K back then either.

The few of us that stepped up first, made NO where near that. Now we were compensated of course, but at the beginning it was more for God Country and Corps. HAHAHAHA
Yet it allowed me to make some connections and land the gig I have now.

If you want to start a thread, I'll jump in on it.

ps. That way YOU get the points!!!!


posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 05:35 AM
Check this out:

New York Times

Large portions of Iraq's rural south have been relatively peaceful, like the provinces of Muthana, where Japanese forces recently left, and Dhi Qar, whose capital, Nasiriya, is patrolled by the Italians, and it is possible that tribes are playing a similarly quiet but central role in keeping order.

The differences reflect, in part, fundamental splits between rural and urban life in Iraq. Maysan, a province of about 920,000, is the countryside. More than 60 percent of its work force is employed in the private sector, mostly farming; in the wealthier, urban areas, a majority is employed in public service.

But the most important factor is the network of tribes.

In cities, generations of busy urban life have dulled people's tribal connections, while in the countryside, particularly in the south, tribes oversee all aspects of daily life — celebrating weddings, intervening in family disputes, administering justice after a killing and collecting money to help someone in need.

Sadly this is Highly Unlikely to Happen in Baghdad or any other Urban Area.

posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 09:14 PM
You're right Souljah, it is sad. Iraqi tribal networks are amazing, and the friendly reception that you get, as per the Islamic tradition of welcoming visitors, from the families is fantastic. A warmer welcome in the world you are unlikely to find. Of course, some elements like to portray all Iraqis as muderous terrorists, but I guess you sell more papers that way. I hope that peace one day returns to Iraq, I would love to go back under other circumstances and see some more of the country.

posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 09:57 PM
Ditto, Willard.

I met some really fantastic people in the middle east. Especially in Lebanon.

I've been all over the world several times and found that to be true everywhere. Good people all around, if you only look.


posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 10:55 PM
The big problem facing the Iraqi government is the police forces. The culture within the Iraqi police reflects the Saddam days, and it needs to be corrected. It is an unfortunate reality that alot of the sectarian fighting in Iraq is being done by police forces gone bad, with Shia and Kurds looking to settle old scores, and the Sunni retaliating to being brutalized by police.

It should be noted that by June 30th, 2006 90% of all military actions are now majority Iraqi Army, with 30% of all actions completely Iraqi Army. While the US does contribute 12 advisors to each independent group, they are for observing progress and don't actually partisipate in the action.

The Army of Iraq is a huge success, and in my opinion is a reflection of the outstanding job the US Military has done.

The Police forces of Iraq is a huge disaster, and in my opinion is a reflection of the incredibly poor political leadership from the Bush administration and the State Dept. providing guidence to the Iraqi provisional government police forces.

From a military perspective, it is easy to see why the Pentagon wants to say mission accomplished in 2007, they feel the Iraqi Army will be ready and the military will have completed its mission.

From a political perspective it is easy to see why the Bush administration doesn't want to do that, because it will highlight how ineffective they have been providing an effective local level police force.

If the police force issue can be solved, Iraq can still be a huge victory for not only the US, but the global hearts and minds campaign against radical Islam as well. The evidence suggests the US effort in Iraq has been hugely successful in that regard, but it is taking a lot of time for the governmental support services to catch up to the political change that has occured in the Iraqi people.

posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 12:21 AM
I have been to some country my self (no mid-east but would like to see how it really is) there really are some good people I think we as people learn how to love one another (I know sound corny). You guy have really help me to see the good side of things there. But let not forget what happening all right.

posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 12:21 AM
I have been to some country my self (no mid-east but would like to see how it really is) there really are some good people I think we as people learn how to love one another (I know sound corny). You guy have really help me to see the good side of things there. But let not forget what happening all right.

posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:38 PM
I should have more for you in a day or so.

I am also trying to get in touch with a friend that is still over there teaching where I left off and I am going to try to do an interview.

Don't get the hopes up though. There are a million things that could go wrong.


posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:53 PM
OK Everybody!!!!!

Take a step back from the war, move out of the reach of the political arena and clear your mind of all debates. Ready?

Now read this.

The opening pitch of the Northern Regional Junior Baseball Tournament last March was a slow ball that struck the dirt an inch behind home plate, bounced into the catcher's face mask and knocked him to the ground.

For anyone focusing on details, like skill, it may have seemed an inauspicious start. But to the players and the two dozen spectators, most of whom did not know the difference between a ball and a strike, the moment underscored something far more important: Baseball had come to Iraq.

Founded in the fall of 2003 by Ismael Khalil Ismael, a shop owner in Baghdad, the national league has grown to 26 full-fledged baseball teams in 18 provinces stretching from Nineveh in the north to Basra in the south. Using hand-me-down gloves and other cast-off equipment, much of it donated from the United States, the teams play on sandy lots, rutted pastures and soccer pitches.
"I'm doing it for the history of Iraq," he declared.

This actually brought a small tear to this old grizzled soldiers eyes.
What a fantastic story.


posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 09:02 PM
Now some pictures to remind us that what we are doing, why we are there goes WAY beyond WMD's, Politics or the UN.

Enjoy these wonderful "little" reminders of our humanity.

Ask any soldier if this is worth dying for, I can tell you what I would say.


posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 02:30 PM
Interesting read on the positive side of things for a change.

U.S. Army Major General William Caldwell :

“In the time it takes a child to sit up, talk, walk, laugh, Iraq has established a constitutionally based, permanent, democratic government with the votes of over 12 million citizens and the efforts of even more,” U.S. Army Major General William Caldwell told journalists in a press briefing in Baghdad.

Caldwell said that in today’s Iraq, free society is growing, as illustrated by increased cell phone coverage from about 1.2 million Iraqis two years ago to 7.4 million today, and an increase in Internet subscribers from 73,000 to more than 200,000. Progress further is illustrated by Iraq’s embrace of more open media with more than 40 new television stations, more than 25 new radio stations and more than 100 new newspapers, added Caldwell.

Who would have thought??????

“It is critical that women’s voices be heard in the new Iraq,” said Liz Dolan, one of five Satellite Sisters. “The women of Iraq are at a critical time in their history. They need information, validation and community in order to succeed in a new and free society. That’s why Satellite Sisters is reaching out to Radio Al-Mahaba’s broadcast colleagues and friends here in the United States. They will not be able to continue their critical mission without our help.”
Radio Al-Mahaba is non-religious, non-governmental and non-sectarian. The station provides the only safe haven for women to call-in and talk to one another about their fears, experiences and opinions. Commentators and guests educate the audience about their rights as women and encourage them to take part in the political process.

Fresh Water :
In Hibhib, a new water station is online:

“They have their national sovereignty. Part of a sovereign nation’s responsibility is to take care of its people. The water treatment and distribution facility is a great step towards demonstrating to the good citizens here in Khalis Kada the government is looking after their needs.”
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has begun a well initiative that is due to be completed in mid-summer 2006. At its completion, the initiative will create 49 wells to service 37 Northern Iraqi communities.

So we carry on, helping, building and supporting.

Good works from a good people to a good people.


posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 08:00 PM
Wow really positive stuff so for what I hear the urban area are source of problems right. Ever else seem to doing some progress and many are embracing the new tech it sound to good to be true. But the police is the one that want start the civil war cause there loyalty to sudaum. I'm I get this right?

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 09:47 PM
I think you may have been correct at first, but the overall attitude of the Iraqi people has changed dramatically.

here are some comments from actual recent graduates of the Iraqi Police Academy.

“Here they taught us to defend ourselves first,” Salman said. “I think maybe we should defend the people first.”

“I want to protect my family,” Subar said. “The family unit is important to this nation. By defending it, I am defending all of Iraq.”

Subar lost his cousin Fazi in a double car-bomb attack. After the first car-bomb went off, Fazi ran to see if Subar was alright. The second car bomb killed Fazi and injured Subar, who is still nursing wounds - both physical and emotional.

“My cousin came to check on my safety, to take care of me,” Subar said. “So, now I will take care of his family.”

Like the other officers, Abraham has taken ownership of the fight. Insurgency violence is indiscriminate, he said, adding that “bullets don’t know where to go, so Iraqis get shot.”

“When the insurgents attack Americans, Iraqis suffer,” he said. “I live in Iraq. I have a family. I need security too. I want to help build the security in the new Iraq.”

“The most important thing I learned was to be honest and decent while doing my job,” said Salman. “When people respect and trust us, they will help us.”

He is willing to die on the job, he said, since it is a good cause.

“I want security for Iraq, for my family, my children’s family, and even visitors from outside Iraq, because this is a free country,” said Salman. “Everyone is welcome here, except for terrorists, because we want to live in peace.”

Sounds refreshing doesn't it?
Kind of want some of the Police here to feel that way again.


posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 01:02 PM
It refreshing look of things thanks for the updates

posted on Jul, 15 2006 @ 03:54 PM
Thanks el che

Here is this weeks positive news from the front.

Iraqi government takes step toward independence

Iraqi soldiers are served lunch at Al Qaim, Iraq. The Ministry of Defense
has taken control from Coalition forces to provide all life support
functions for more than 130,000 Iraqi soldiers.

BAGHDAD, Iraq — The Ministry of Defense has taken over life support
functions for more than 80 bases throughout Iraq since April, cutting Coalition
expenses by $24 million a month. The Iraqi government is now responsible
for providing food, water, cleaning, supplies, security, maintenance for
facilities and equipment, morale items, and clearing of waste products, to name a few,
for more than 130,000 Iraqi soldiers.

Courtesy The Advisor

OK, now they are starting to be autonomous!!!!

This is Fantastic..


posted on Jul, 17 2006 @ 10:52 PM
If this doe not touch you, check your pulse. You may be dead...

Puppies flown from Iraq to California

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Four skinny puppies and their sad-eyed mother were delivered from Iraq to a woman who said she felt compelled to push for a rescue after spotting the dogs sitting forlornly in the desert behind a TV news reporter.
Christmas, 51, moved by the puppies' plight, first tried to reach the TV news reporter in the area, then discovered an Amman, Jordan-based group called the Humane Center for Animal Welfare. She called the founders and asked if they could rescue the puppies.

"Actually, we were going to Iraq to save gazelles," said Margaret Ledger, director of the center. But Ledger pledged to keep an eye out for the dogs along the way.

In the Iraq village of Al Amanieh, the small convoy including a veterinarian and two U.S. military escorts spotted six puppies and the mother was so weak she could barely stand. One puppy was adopted by an Iraqi family and another by military personnel. Christmas agreed to pay the $1,000 cost of transporting the others to Southern California.

The dogs were flown Sunday from Amman to Paris, where they were walked, watered and checked by a veterinarian. They were flown from there to Los Angeles International Airport. Authorities checked their health certificates and they cleared customs Monday.

And some still insist that nothing good is happening over there. Granted this is a very minor incident, but it goes to the spirit of good minded people wanting to do good things in the world.


posted on Jul, 19 2006 @ 09:51 PM
Take a moment in your busy day and visit this link.

While each serviceman and woman knows they risk their lives in battle, in every war there are acts of extraordinary courage where an individual, military or civilian, goes beyond what is expected to avert conflict, save lives or otherwise achieve an extraordinary mission. This special section highlights the acts of a few of those individuals who -- through feats of courage, nobility of purpose or life-risking situations -- have become "Heroes of War."

Not the usual "blood and Guts" story that we see everyday all over the news. Just ordinary people doing extraordinary tthings.


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