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Suggestions for a descriptive environmental term

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posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 06:34 PM
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The word or term, would be used to describe how a large company could build
an industrial site, like a manufacturing site, or a mining site, in an area populated by people that can't afford to fight it, or reject it.

The site might produce toxins, or just mess up the landscape.
The company may claim that they are doing EVERYTHING they can to keep it safe.
But none of the local population would have the means to disprove them.

Some examples would be:

Eco-social injustice
socio-environmental injustice
Environmental classism

They don't exactly roll off the tongue..And I don't know if they are descriptive enough.

Any ideas would be appreciated!




posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 07:02 PM
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socialism central planning.

That is exactly what the Soviet Union, East Germany, North Korea, etc did under the communist regime.



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 07:02 PM
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socialism central planning.

That is exactly what the Soviet Union, East Germany, North Korea, etc did under the communist regime.



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 07:58 PM
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It happens a lot in the US too..

The Erin Brockovich movie is similar to the situation I am describing.

Socialism Central planning, descriptive, but not catchy...
Got any others up your sleeve?

Thanks!



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 10:24 PM
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Corporate eco/ elitism

Ecological arrogance

Exxonism

vagabond once coined a term "kleptocracy"

[edit on 6-7-2006 by whaaa]

[edit on 6-7-2006 by whaaa]



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 11:18 PM
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Its just a type of predation no?

You mean a term for when the powerful specifically target the powerless?

I think the terms exists already no? Life.


"Conspicuous manipulation", sorta a twist on 'conspicuous consumption'?

If we're talking about them manipulating the laws, or creating laws, to favour themselves, I think its just called "Plutocracy".



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 02:41 AM
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ahh

Now we're getting somewhere..

Kleptocracy..LOL..

Corporate eco/elitism is a good one.

And Nygdan it's definitely a form of predation.
It happened to my Grandmother once, years ago..
Coal comanies offered what seemed like a lot of money to her, for the mineral rights
to her property. In her ignorance, she signed it away. Allowing for Strip miners to pretty much destroy it all, with minimal reclamation.. We had to hire a few laywers to back out of the deal. It's still intact to this day.

Great thinking, I really appreciate it.



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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I beleive they used to call these types "robber barons"



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 09:30 PM
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How about Green Fraud?


[edit on 9-7-2006 by loam]



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 07:50 PM
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Green fraud is good too.

Green theft, green injustice, green classism..

Green works with lots of terms..



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt

The word or term, would be used to describe how a large company could build
an industrial site, like a manufacturing site, or a mining site, in an area populated by people that can't afford to fight it, or reject it.



JOBS



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by spacedoubt

The word or term, would be used to describe how a large company could build
an industrial site, like a manufacturing site, or a mining site, in an area populated by people that can't afford to fight it, or reject it.



JOBS



...Good one, Howard...but somehow, I don't think spacedoubt had that in mind...sort of like saying a pickpocket is giving a helping hand...


[edit on 9-7-2006 by loam]



posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 11:56 PM
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what is a job today may be nothing tomorow , you need to think... ahead.

Stop thinking short term i dont wanna be labeled as the era who didnt give a dam about our planet.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 12:02 AM
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But that is the real dilemma, isn't it.

living in a risk free world won't do you much good, if you can't afford to eat.

Industry locates where there is cheap labor and cheap land. In return it provides a needed economic base to those areas.

Ideally, all modern industry should be clean and polution free. Practically, no, that isn't going to happen. The problem isn't in the new pants and facilities anyway. In the U.S., at least, those have to meet new source criteria. It's the plants that have been there 100 years that are the issue.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 01:13 PM
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JOBS!

It's very true. That IS what it is.
But believe it or not, the locals aren't even employed by these places.
Most of the employees come from outside of the US, and very little money is
tossed into the local economy.

A couple of the places we visited required us to "switch sides", and drive on the other side of the road..As if we were driving in the UK.. They were not a UK based company though. That puzzled me a bit..



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 08:48 PM
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pillaging
resource rape
capital extremism

capitalism is fine system- just like socialism- but when done to the extreme- with no restraint- they suck.....

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hey, you said rape twice...

"i like rape"

'Blazing Saddles'



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by spacedoubt
JOBS!

It's very true. That IS what it is.
But believe it or not, the locals aren't even employed by these places.
Most of the employees come from outside of the US, and very little money is
tossed into the local economy.

A couple of the places we visited required us to "switch sides", and drive on the other side of the road..As if we were driving in the UK.. They were not a UK based company though. That puzzled me a bit..




What the hell are you talking about?



posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 02:31 PM
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Gold mines Howard.

I'm talking about Gold mines, mostly.
They take giant scoops of ore, and either treat it with chemicals, so the gold can be leached out. Or they "roast" it..Releasing toxins like mercury.

Once done, they move on, or just close down..Not cleaning up after themselves.
Not contributing to the local economy (or very little) either.



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