Originally posted by wagnerian21
Originally posted by Enyalius
Personally I've never drawn any circles, neither do I believe that one controls any entity.
Dosen`t your statement that you don`t believe one can control a given entity rather contradict your previous statement that an entity cannot exit the
vicinity of the summoner without being given leave to depart?
Words are just words and can never give a real scope of what's going on. Banising and Summoning and Controlling come in many shapes. Perhaps
Confining would've been a better word to use. You confine a being within a controlled area.
When working with any deity there is the LHP and the RHP method. One works more by the ego and truly beliefs that they can submit beings and use whips
and offerings to control them. Then there is the other path which is more of a co-operation relationship. I usually begin with creating controlled
areas and confine the beings and much as possible. When working more and more with them I usually create a bond and then apply the other method and
gain a great friend.
Chalk lines, Essence, Candles, Putting on a robe. It all is usefull and it all works. It just depends on what you feel as a result. I see it as
getting myself into the right state of mind and vibration in correspondence with my goal.
Even though I'm a Ceremonialist I too have several cross-overs to Chaos. This made it difficult for me to decide which path was for me. I switch
dogma's just as easily, I don't believe in lined out systems too much yet comform to them when I need to just like following one dogma and the next
second another dogma. Also when you study the history of almost everything you will find so many similarities in each religion, traditions, life
philosophy that you can no longer assume that anything is exlusive and all is one.
Well Cug explained the rest. However I see that not even the paranormal is paranormal. Everything comes from nature in the end and is quite natural.
Except for scientific mutations and such those are paranormal...or would the correct term be abnormal.
So that remains a reply to AngelaLady. When I followed the path of New-Age I worked with Reiki untill I gained a master degree in it. I worked with
angels/arch angels, channeling higher dimensial guardians, regular guardians, ley-line guardians, elementals...at one point specialized in
lightworking. But they were all incomplete bastardized systems, weak and inefficient compared to my future experiences within the occult.
The beings you work with are those can be asked to come by when asked, simply because they are around almost 24/7. However those can not be compared
to working with occult practices and working with deities. The deities there are far stronger and capable...at first their energetic presence alone
almost floored me. I don't believe in a hierarchy, however it does make things more understandable for most.
You could see new-age deities in the middle layer and the beings I work with on the top layer.
[edit on 12-8-2006 by Enyalius]