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I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?

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posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Wolfpack 51
the original one that started this thread will evaluate it.

'The Original One!"" Ooohhh I like that... has a nice ring to it.

I signed their petition, however I did not add my address and phone number. I have never seen another petition that asks that... Not sure I want to be on their mailing list.

Unfortunately they don't appear to be clear about the intent of the petition, and it is only addressed to local polititians in the state of NY, but it is a start. It looks like a group prepping a big class action lawsuit [read list of damages] and the questions about if you had any direct loss from the event

Originally posted by Duhh

In a word NO Your "evidence" is totally irrelevant to the question of this thread. Please read R4758's original premise.

[edit on 13-7-2006 by zorgon]

posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 11:10 PM

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
This is a good site to learn alot about 9//11..

You don't have to convince us. Look at the title of the thread.

Now answer the question


I was talking about the link here.

Sorry for misconception.

posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 11:24 PM
Isn't this the 'Title? "I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?"
How are those links not pert?

posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 11:38 PM
Gee wiz this is easy.Numero uno on That wild and craayyyzzzeee guy killtowneeee!

"1962 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Cuba committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Cuba"

---This was a lone persons idea .That eventually got him moved to another post.Mac and Kennedy all ready suffered the Bay 'O Pigs.
-So to paraphrase,or flat out not represent by making it appear as if it was drafted and put into doctrine is flat out ly'en,as moma would say.

Be glad to take down the others but it is so easy.Pick your 4 faves.We'll start there.

Peace,Love.And Understand'en/

posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 11:53 PM

Killerclownee numero dose,for those who are counting.

"March '00 - Filming begins for The Lone Gunmen's 'Pilot' episode that depicts a US plot to crash an electronically hijacked Boeing 727 into WTC and blame foreign terrorists to provoke war and increase military's budget (KC Star), March '01 - 'Pilot' episode airs on FOX TV, 6 months before attacks (TV Guide), Lone Gunmen co-producer hopes WTC attack wasn't 'somehow inspired' by anything they did. (KC Star) "


NEEEEXXXTTTTT !!!!!come on I dare ya!!!

Real Laughter and Lots of It.Thanks !!!!!

posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 11:57 PM

Originally posted by Duhh
---This was a lone persons idea .That eventually got him moved to another post.Mac and Kennedy all ready suffered the Bay 'O Pigs.

Err, no, sorry. Not "a lone persons idea".

The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the highest ranking member of the U.S. military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.

The proposal was presented in a document entitled "Justification for US Military Intervention in Cuba," a collection of draft memoranda (PDF) written by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) representative to the Caribbean Survey Group. The document was presented by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13 with one paragraph approved, as a preliminary submission for planning purposes.

Source (emphasis mine), and fortunately enough, Wikipedia has provided its own sources on this one if you want to follow it through.

And then this guy took it to Kennedy. So it was obviously not some lone nut that wrote it all up and submitted it all by himself.

And if you keep reading, even more plans were suggested to give Castro trouble, under the name Operation Mongoose.

From the same page (emphasis again mine), with more documentation to follow:

In addition to Operation Northwoods, under the Operation Mongoose program the Department of Defense had a number of similar proposals to be taken against the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro.

Twelve of these proposals come from a February 2, 1962 memorandum entitled "Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba," written by Brig. Gen. William H. Craig and submitted to Brig. Gen. Edward Lansdale, the commander of the Operation Mongoose project. [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] (Note: the foregoing links to Brig. Gen. Craig's memo are at this time offline. The following are backup links: [13] [14] [15] [16] [17].)

The memorandum outlines Operation Bingo, a plan to, in its words, "create an incident which has the appearance of an attack on U.S. facilities (GMO) in Cuba, thus providing an excuse for use of U.S. military might to overthrow the current government of Cuba."

It also includes Operation Dirty Trick, a plot to blame Castro if the 1962 Mercury manned space flight carrying John Glenn crashed, saying "The objective is to provide irrevocable proof that, should the MERCURY manned orbit flight fail, the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic]." It continues, "This to be accomplished by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans."

Even after General Lyman Lemnitzer lost his job as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs of Staff still planned pretext operations at least into 1963.

And then details are given on these additional pretexts.

Farrrrrr from a lone guy suggesting these things. The thought of an inside job to get us a Cuban war was apparently pretty popular amongst our high-ranking military personnel.

But then again, isn't murder and deceit their profession? Just comes by a different name, and a larger scale. That's all.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:09 AM
Yes it got considered before the bay of him Mr.L. As far as the, it got approved for further consideration or implementation account.Guess who approved that to push it further.Do I need to remind you of the times?It really suprises me that Bob K. didn't jump all over this.But it got him reassigned,cuz even BK and JFK,were like"what U talken bout Willis".

--Lemnitzer may have been the most rabid anticommunist of anyone in a high position in the U.S. Throughout the Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations he continually pushed for an invasion of Cuba. After the Bay of Pigs fiasco, that idea was not welcome in the White House.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:11 AM
I know threads get off on tangents, but could we again refocus on the title? There a plenty of places to post all the side issues involved ....go take a look.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:14 AM
Iv'e spent a bit of money making copies of '9/11 confronting the evidence' its a private panel of experts that go over different points of each event. I hand it out to anyone i see, give a breaf discription, and hope they dont throw it out. Iv'e written to my government, not directly about 9/11 yet (i plan to save that for RCMP's war crimes division). Life is on hold for me, until this matter gets sorted out. there is nothing wrong with having a beer and a good time, but not until after a good day of doing whats right, not what was easier. I'm not saying that i dont slap myself for missed opportunitis and im 'all that', but i will not take comfort in this, no i refuse.

You could not be more IGNORANT than to know the truth about 9/11 and then not do anything, anything at all about it. 9/11 is synonymous with 'WHERES THE PROOF?'. I got your proof in my conciousness, as well as a lot of disproof of the so called fact that the victims of 9/11 we forever be stappled to. Instead of those victims in New York (as i dont recall any other memorial for any other "attack" that day) being remembered as a reason to Invade the Middle East and keep Islam off Israels back, lets have them remembered as the last time an elected government ever tried to pull something as heinous as that ever again.

Research until we catch them slip, but don't let them exhaust our efforts with "wheres the proof?" like the justice system means squat anyway, but these perps know every cranny of the law so they know we need a testamnoy to get anything solid so.... TESTIFY. as RATM would put it "it's right out side your door, now testify"

I'll die to keep my children safe, but i wont kill, so whats left to do but stand up for whats right.

[edit on 14-7-2006 by tom goose]

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:28 AM
BTW site better sources than wiki,please

While I love wiki, on alot of encyclopedia type stuff.This even by "CT"Standards has been kinda flooded with BS.AGAIN WIKI I LOVE YA.Hit their 911 Conspiracy page.It begs to be edited.It is the,but CTers just keep comen at it.Wish they would spend that much time on AIDS,or the Big C research.Unless that too is a Big C ??

Please look futher than "LC" " Killlerclown " ..or what ever!!...And S.Jones,one more.. who ever is feed'en ya out of context quotes, for dramatic effect\

Kill the mind and the body will follow.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:35 AM
"private panel of experts that go over different points of each event. I hand it out to anyone i see,"

==Ge that sounds real! What the F' are their creds????

===Have ya posted your manifesto?

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:38 AM
Well I guess you have your answer R4758 to your post... It seems that only a handfull of us care enough to even think of a petition... All the others want to do is bring up the "evidence" again

So in a nutshell NO ONE WILL DO ANYTHING and if thats the trend here where you can't even get a serious answer to a singlr question in a thread, how can we expect the rest of Anerica to stand up and do anything?

Maybe if there was more response I might take time to do the petition myself... but we shall wait and see

TALK IS CHEAP Sign your name NOW

Line forms at the left... free coffee and donuts on the right...

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:41 AM
"Research until we catch them slip, but don't let them exhaust our efforts with "wheres the proof?"

LOL.....Yeah' cuz that would be like bad. Nyet!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha H a Ha Tee Hee Hee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:44 AM
"Well I guess you have your answer R4758 to your post... It seems that only a handfull of us care enough to even think of a petition"

==Wonder why that is ......Ok hit below the belt. But still?????????

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:47 AM

Originally posted by DuhhWonder why that is ....

Because "people" like yourself don't read? or cannot understand the question?

Probably both

BTW Nice nickname

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Duhh
BTW site better sources than wiki,please

I know this thread is already being derailed immensely, but I've already mentioned in the very post you're responding to that Wikipedia cites other sources on its very Northwoods page. Everything I just posted is supported by the original documentation or some other reliable source (ie, PDFs of scans of the actual FOIA releases are provided).

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 12:51 AM
Oooo!!! That L' leave a mark.I've got the answers!Ok just your top 2 CT.Come on,it's only two.I got to go to work in 2 hours.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 01:00 AM
Just wondered why you used that page if you had direct info????You have shown no proof that ON was ever acted upon.Lots of reports out of context and inuendo!!

Later Gotta Go.

Watch out for S.Jones "CL" AND Barrett,Check the real facts.PLEASE.IT MAY TAKE A WEEK OF REAL RESEARCH.IT WILL BE WORTH IT.

START HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 01:06 AM

My sig states if you have an issue with anything on those links make a post about it and chat. Not to derail someone elses post into oblivion..

To the original poster sorry for that bad attempt of Duh to derail your thread..

You can goto: (I dont use this site but alot of people do, so I guess its aight.)
Coast to Coast AM has lot of interesting stuff on 9/11 also. I dont know about that site, however I do listen to the show at night.

If anything else comes up as far as sites and such I will post them for ya.

posted on Jul, 14 2006 @ 01:08 AM
Sigh...... and so dies another thread.

I know it's hard but can't we (all of us) ever stay on a topic for a decent amount of debate or what passes for debate. I do it too but at least now I catch myself and stop (at least most of the time).

End of rant. Sorry.

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