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I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?

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posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Vushta
I offered that same idea a while back on another site.

I posed this question.

You are offered one chance to present a case for reopening an investigation. You must present your strongest piece of evidence or all is lost. You have ONE shot. What do you present?

You know what answers were given?
None.
A lot of excuses (one piece ties in with another)..but no examples. So in order to have another investigation, ...you have to buy into the whole conspiracy from freefalls to squibs to Marvin Bush to pulverized dust.

Thats not evidence. Thats a conspiracy theory.


you're just plain wrong.

more evidence equals stronger likelihood. with an 'increasing WEIGHT of evidence', the plausibility of an alternate plausibility becomes so close to zero that it IS zero, without some further 'earth shattering' evidence which breaks the logic chain.

many small pieces of evidence pointing to the same thing equals a strong possibility.
one piece of evidence(even a strong one) equals a big nebulous question mark.

the best, strongest case will bring ALL EVIDENCE from ALL FIELDS OF INQUIRY.

your 'logic' is sadly lacking for any real world applications.

the bushes financed the nazis.
the bushes(george senior) helped assassinate kennedy.
the bushes held the highest office in both the secret police(bush senior), and the government(senior and junior).
the bush cabal decided who was (p)resident of the whitehouse(through the influence of jeb).
the bush cabal was in control of the security at the WTC complex(through marvin).

that is only (some subjective, some objective) evidence of the potential and motives of this crew. and that is just the historical/political abstract.

the physics of 911, and the OBVIOUS multitude of coverups, are only MORE EVIDENCE that IMPLICATE the BUSH CABAL.

i'm so dead.

oh, well. better to live on your feet for GOD, then die on your knees for a bunch of SATANISTS.




posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by billybob
your 'logic' is sadly lacking for any real world applications.

the bushes financed the nazis.
the bushes(george senior) helped assassinate kennedy.
the bushes held the highest office in both the secret police(bush senior), and the government(senior and junior).
the bush cabal decided who was (p)resident of the whitehouse(through the influence of jeb).
the bush cabal was in control of the security at the WTC complex(through marvin).

that is only (some subjective, some objective) evidence of the potential and motives of this crew. and that is just the historical/political abstract.

the physics of 911, and the OBVIOUS multitude of coverups, are only MORE EVIDENCE that IMPLICATE the BUSH CABAL.

i'm so dead.

oh, well. better to live on your feet for GOD, then die on your knees for a bunch of SATANISTS.



But...but... all those things you listed near the end...are not EVIDENCE.


So the answer to the question is....you have none.

[edit on 10-7-2006 by Vushta]



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:44 PM
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Theory...

A small part of a biiiiiiig plan. Through government mis information, propaganda and use of media, the masses shall be controlled.

Problem - Reaction - Solution

Problems are created (planes hit the trade centre)
public reacts - OMGWTF - Do Something
Solution - War on terror with public backing.

Speculation to a short term reason - speculate away. Its not short term, has been unfolding for hundreds if not thousands of years. Its the way the world works and will continue. The long term is few controlling the many, as few as possible for as many as possible and millions are in on it, goverments across the world, bin laden, whoever, any and all. Maybe even the aliens. NWO order perhaps. NATO. EU. No stone unturned.

The problem - reaction - solution is simply a method, a technique and a very successful one to get public approval for previously hatched agenda.

Just theory though, no basis in fact, just throwing some fuel on the fire.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 09:52 PM
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What to do next?? Easy... figure out the following:

- who could have done this?
- who likely did this?
- why was it done?
- can the perps be held accountable?
- what can be done to prevent it from happening again?

Tips for moving forward:

-follow the money trail
-who benefited from 911 and who lost?
-who is really running the USA, the world etc?
-what connections, knowledge, abilities, resources, experience etc would be needed to pull this off and who had it?



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Vushta


But...but... all those things you listed near the end...are not EVIDENCE.


So the answer to the question is....you have none.


i feel many readers and researchers will find the FURTHER evidence to disagree.
YOU are obviously 'unconvincible'; a propoganda pawn, reeling off a trail of bread crumbs on the endless staircase of circular logic.

i will no longer try to convince YOU of anything. your 'mind'(ie. script) is made up.

if i showed you a picture of king george himself pressing a big red remote control button that says 'implode' under it, with the twin towers visible exploding in the background as he pushes the button, and then i showed you a video of him in a bar later bragging about how he blew up the towers in to usher in the police state....
you would say, 'he's jyust blowing off steam', 'he didn't mean it LITERALLY!', 'that was just a big red button, you have no PROOF that it REALLY imploded the towers. it was just a joke remote control demolition device, like this one:

[insert image of 'the coup' album cover, here]



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 11:46 PM
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I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?
Add something that contributes to this particular topic please.



posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?
Add something that contributes to this particular topic please.


Are you asking for suggestions on what actions we take?

Well I would do one of two things...
1. Form and lead an action group, get elected to office or overthrow the government or lead a revolt and get to the bottom of it yourself.

OR

2. Try and be a good person, keep your nose clean and enjoy the life you have.

Maybe we can get some more and start a poll.



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
I Am Convinced That The Official Story Is False...Now What?
Add something that contributes to this particular topic please.


spread your version of the truth.

join an internet forum, and deposit relevent information. hand out flyers. shout from the rooftops. whatever you like, SPREAD THE WORD.

it's harder than it sounds. people don't like to talk politics or religion.

there is a fine line between 'spreader of truth' and 'irritating wide-eyed fanatic', these days.

the FACT remains, that the more people who know that throwing a lit match into a gasoline tank may cause a very bad explosion(half empty, or half full?), results in less matches being thrown into gas tanks.

so, if 'we' can find subtle, impactful ways(buzzwords, obvious patterns), to spread the word, the internal logic of the truth itself will transform mass behaviour.

it works for television, newspapers and radio. why not 'gossip'?

any actual physical uprising will bring a much nastier retaliation and subsequent lockdown by 'them'. the best approach, is the ghandi method, in my oh so really amazing opinion(IMOSRAO).

you may be doing it already!

the other important thing is know your enemy.

do not think that 'they' don't know what you are doing. they do. it is only when you become effective on a large scale, that you draw their 'attention'.
do not think that they are 'this' or 'that', because 'they' are your own shadow, and only the shadow 'knows'.

that'sd just a little poetry mixed with DIRE WARNINGS of EXTREME SUBTERFUGE!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 08:03 PM
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Hey I'm interested. What should we do next? email me uniderth@yahoo.com



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Prote
1. Form and lead an action group,


Okay That is a good one... but lets go one even simpler...

I am only going to address this to those who ARE convinced that 911 was a conspiracy by our Government. Why? Because those that disagree have many threads here to argue there view. The question here is directed at the premise that the conspiracy is true.

First How many of you here that believe have written a letter to your congressman, asking for an investigation? Raise your hands... hmmmmm.

I don't want to here ANYONE saying letters do no good. I have been involved with many that have been very successful.

Look at the arrests in the news today of TOP LEVEL politians. SOMEONE SOMEWHERE is making this happen. So they ARE NOT above the law.

True one or two letters will do nothing, but how many people here at ATS believe> Imaging if you let those people know where they could sign such a petition.

20,000 plus letters WITH COPY sent to the media will get attention. You don't have to accuss anyone, you don't have to bomb anyone, you don't have to storm the whitehouse... just say aa a concerned citizen you demand an IMPARTIAL investigation...

Maybe it won't work, Maybe there is no conspiracy... but if enough people in America demand an investigation... something will happen. Even disbelievers should sign this, or are THEY afraid of the truth?

But I have been in here for only a few weeks and all I see is constant back and forth with no outcome. Not one letter of protest in ANY subject. If you want a conspiracy... maybe its to keep us all in here bickering on who is right or wrong, so we will be too busy to do anything.

People that don't post in boards are to busy with their own lifes to care much one way or the other anyway...cept maybe about the price of gas.

When I moved to the US about 10 years ago, on the CB Radio I heard the truckers were going to circle the Whitehouse to protest a 6 cent hike in diesel


What happened to the American Spirit?

Start with letters to your representive. Believe me at the very least they WILL answer you. Get on forums like this...[You do this so well everyday already] Let people know where they can sign a petition. I am sure one of the writers on here could make one nicely worded so it doesn't sound dumb or contains hot headed antagonistic phrases...

If you cannot even get 10 people together on ATS to believe enough to put their name on a paper... then there is no point debating this or anything...

And to those who thing "If I get involved something bad will happen to me" No not for writing letters, not if there are huge numbers. Protests in the street is a different matter... but ummm lets see if we can at least sign a name first before we get complicated...

I for one will sign such a paper, and have many friends who would. But don't ask me to write it... I HATE typing



posted on Jul, 12 2006 @ 10:03 PM
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OKAY Now I will add a little more to my last post...

This is one of the causes I am supporting...

Disclaimer... I am in no way soliciting for this organization, nor is it necessary for you to send a donation. This site is to show you how easy it is and provide an example of how to set it up... Clear on this? Ok

Cause
The Arctic Wild Life Refuge... Bush wants to Drill for Oil...

So far he has been stopped....

Now this site has a Movie Star as a front name...
Two Senators support this Shelly Berkley, Harry Reed. I have recieved many letters of thanks for support from both. THey DO answer you.

Here is a site, with a cause, with an easy to use petition, and a way to email a copy to your friends

THIS is waht you do...THIS is step one. THIS is how you spread the word and get media attention...

A lot better than taking a rifle and storming Washington! A lot safer too! And besides their are a lot of people at Washington who are doing their job and NOT part of ANY conspiracy...

SAVE ARTIC FOXES HERE

[PS If you like the Arctic Foxes... you know what to do
]

[edit on 12-7-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 12:05 AM
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A small way to keep the momentum going is by talking to people you know.

Most people are interested enough to listen, as long as you dont go off accusing the government of doing it. You may believe it, but dont say it, not at first.

Ive always felt it was a inside job, and the pentagon is bull crap too.

I recently received a DVD, it was free by the way, and it has some good information and cites the people on the DVD at the end of the presentation so you can follow up further if you want.

This free DVD is at: www.reopen911.org...

There is also alot of information there.

These people are putting their money where their mouth is, when they will send out DVD's postage paid to anyone that requests it, they are getting the word out.

They encourage you to copy and distribute the presentation, the more that believe that something is funny about 911, the better chance to get it reopened.

You owe it to yourself to at least check out the site, the DVD gives you something to pass on to others and perhaps get them to start thinking that the truth has yet to be told.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 12:36 AM
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Wolfpack, while I like your post I looked at the website you linked and the first thing staring me in the eye was this blub:
Proof That Blue Screen Technology Was Used to Fake the 2nd Plane
here's the linkwww.reopen911.org...

Now maybe it's just me, but that was a new theory to me.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 12:58 AM
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Yeah I spotted that too. First I ever heard of that theory



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 03:43 AM
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killtown.911review.org...

This is a good site to learn alot about 9//11..

It seems to be standing up pretty good. Look at my sig, its been there for about 3 or 4 months and nobody has even touched it. So either they are lazy or its strong evidence that cant be taken out easily.

I would also suggest:
Alex Jones Material
physics911.net...
www.st911.org...

There is more but I cant think of anything offhand.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by ThichHeaded
This is a good site to learn alot about 9//11..


You don't have to convince us. Look at the title of the thread.

Now answer the question


OR ELSE



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 06:39 PM
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Sorry if the link has other theories that perhaps you disagree with.

There is things on it Im sure you might agree with.

And I hope the original one that started this thread will evaluate it.

The DVD dont have bluetooth imageing or anything like it I noticed.

Oh well, just passing on information.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 08:17 PM
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Wolfpack,
Thanks for the info. That link really was just literally the first thing that caught my eye, given it's location on the web page. It's stuff like that which will be a tough job convincing those whose minds you want to change. It just makes your task that much harder in my opinion.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 08:44 PM
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FOR REAL INVESTIGATIVE SCIENCE PLEASE SEE THESE LINKS

911myths.com...

www.geocities.com...

NEXT ONE FOR LC FANATICS

www.geocities.com...
If you really want to see the whole spectrum it is here,tons of info.



posted on Jul, 13 2006 @ 08:46 PM
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Sorry,this link is for LC fanatics!

www.ccdominoes.com...




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