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Omnian Masonic Rite ... Anti-Illuminati?

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posted on Jul, 5 2006 @ 10:45 PM
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Is there such a thing as an anti-Illuminati? A confederation of individuals (powerful or otherwise) working to thwart NWO agendas?

I've been doing research on the Omanian Masonic Rite but am having trouble finding anything about them after the Civil War era. Even pre-1850 stuff is mostly conjecture but there are at least some references.

The Omnian Masonic Rite was supposedly a group of like-minded former Masons who had become disillusioned by traditional Freemasonry after the American Revolution. The best information seems to point to Ethan Allen starting the movement after declaring that the Masons in America had dropped their moral and religious positions in favor of forming a new political and business elite. A cornerstone document of the Omnian Masonic Rite is Allen's "Reason: The Only Oracle of Man" which contained some pretty blunt statements about religion, government, and the duties of citizens.

The Omnian Masonic Rite didn't have temples or meeting houses but did have an active communication network through letters among republican-leaning leaders at the time. Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe may also have been involved in one way or another in the movement. At one time or another they all had given moral or financial support.

In the 100 years or so that its activities can be discerned, its function seemed to be to stand against those who sought strong central control of the government. At different times they stood against Federalists, the Burr/Wilkinson conspiracy, the Copperheads, and the Knights of the Golden Circle. However, after Reconstruction they drop completely off the radar and their existance in the current century is mainly conjecture.

The rumor and conspiracy mills have them involved at all the common 20th century conflicts and turning points: WWI, WWII, UN founding, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War, 9/11, etc., etc. which seems a little too convenient.

But it did get me thinking ... surely a group like this must exist, however small. Is there a modern day version of the Omnian Masonic Rite out there?

Thanks,
Ted4Secrets




posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 01:26 PM
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teamgto.net...

Very interesting. I have never heard of them before. Was aware back in the industrial days of the Republic there was an Anti-Mason political party.



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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I find it odd that that webpage has this page within it
teamgto.net...


Which asks to put in your id, put.....its not an actual 'entry' field, iow, its non-functional. Perhaps there is no one in the group?

On this page

teamgto.net...
Under U.S Code Title 26, Subtitle II Part A Chapter 10, and title 50, Chapter 3 Section 21, this information has been removed until further notice.



TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 3 > § 21
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies.


As for "U S Code Title 26, Subtitle II Part A Chapter 10 "

There is no such section. Title 26's subtitles are lettered. If II is supposed to be B, there is no 'part a' nor any chapter 10. There is an 'appendix' to it, but it is divided directly into Titles with roman numerals, of which II contains Rules 10-13 (iow, not "parts" or "chapters").

Eitherway, US Code Title 26 is the Internal Revenue Code.

So these jokers are probably tax protestors of a sort who beleive that the Fed is an enemy government, or something along those lines.

As far as the domain, according to Allwhois.com,

www.allwhois.com...
Domain Name.......... teamgto.net
Creation Date........ 2006-01-25
Registration Date.... 2006-01-25
Expiry Date.......... 2007-01-25
Organisation Name.... Mary Hutchinson
Organisation Address. 1401 South Randolph Street
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Richmond
Organisation Address. 23220
Organisation Address. VA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES


Looks like that would be right next to the 'temple'. A google satellite photo however shows.....nothing.
The green arrow is the "lodge" address (from the website). The purple arrow, I added it, I am not sure what the builidng is supposed to be, but perhaps its the 1401 address above.
img178.imageshack.us...

[edit on 6-7-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan


There is no such section.


Neither is there any such Masonic Rite. Ethan Allen, whom they claim as a forefather on the website, was a member of the York Rite.



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 02:25 PM
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The phone number on the website is not listed, and the address given in the domain registration doesn't appear to be listed either, which might mean that they don't exist, or they could be trying to avoid that 'evil federal yellow book'.


ML, where'd the come up with the name, is it from masonry or paramasonry, to your knowledge?

edit to add:

(outside of it being from 'omni' of course)
Looks like there are Omnians, on Discworld.

experts.about.com...
An Omnian is someone who practices a religion that appears on the Discworld, created by Terry Pratchett. They have got quite good at it by now.



[edit on 6-7-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 10:31 PM
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I think the teamgto.net... thing is some kind of joke or game. I had come across the site and if you call the number you get some hokey recording about "an epic battle between the forces of good and evil." I've also seen that picture of Einstein before as well and it's a web thing where you can fill in the words and get the picture. Besides, there's no Omnian Masonic Rite around anymore.

The 'Omnian' in the Omnian Masonic Rite of the 1700s was meant to refer to the word 'Om' meaning 'universal.' While Ethan Allen was a York Rite Mason, in the latter part of his life he became disillusioned with the movement as he did with any other group that tried to form a new 'elite' (either political or financial). During the controversary of the Wyoming Valley land grants he stated that he "did not fight a revolution against the British just to be oppressed by a new aristocracy in Philadelphia."


But all that is beside the point. My interest is in any information about any modern-day organizations (secret or otherwise) that are standing against NWO organizations. It seems like there should be a ying to the yang bit you never hear about that.

It can even be far-fetched information. Right now I've got nothing to even look at.

Thanks,
Ted4Secrets



posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 10:53 PM
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Where did you get that information about the Omnian Rite? It sounds most intersesting.


I think that a big problem with looking for anti-NWO organizations is defining just what the NWO is. In many of the older configurations, it was a socialist world state.

In general its seen as a global dictatorship /one world government. So, in that vein, any nationalist organization is an anti-NWO organization.

In one of our ATS Debates, the idea that the Nazis, a nationalistic party strongly opposed to 'anglo-capitalism' and internationalism, was seen by many (at the time) as an anti-NWO organization. That might make some interesting reading for you.

At the same time, many people see the NWO as a sort of global plutocracy, or even just simply a state of the world where corporations have great power and influence, so perhaps, somewhat paradoxically, internationist communist movements can be seen as anti-NWO also. There's definitly a lot of rhetoric from both sides of the political spectrum that is bascially anti-NWO, with it sometimes being called out by name.


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Oopps! Forgot to include that Debate Link, as noted below. Here it is:
Zenlover28 vs. The Vagabond: Nazi NWO

[edit on 10-7-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan



ML, where'd the come up with the name, is it from masonry or paramasonry, to your knowledge?


No, I've never heard of anything called an Omnian Rite. I'd be willing to wager that it was made up by the webmaster there.



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
In one of our ATS Debates, the idea that the Nazis, a nationalistic party strongly opposed to 'anglo-capitalism' and internationalism, was seen by many (at the time) as an anti-NWO organization. That might make some interesting reading for you.


Do you have a link?



posted on Jul, 8 2006 @ 02:25 PM
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i totally thought Discworld when i saw this... but then, those Omnians are more a parody of some non-specific but heavily dogmatic Christian sect, probably Catholicism.

never heard of 'em, and if Masonic Light says nay, that's good enough for me.



[edit] if it's opposing the 'Illuminati' you want, check into Discordianism. we hate those bastards, when we aren't them.

[edit on 8-7-2006 by The Parallelogram]



posted on Jul, 11 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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I call shenanigans.

1) If the intent is for this 'rite' to be open and visible, they would possess a real domain name, links to other masonic bodies (particularly, the Grand Lodge of Virginia), and a contact address of some sort (especially when it says 'to find out about us, you must contact us'). A google search produced 7 results, which includes that page, this ATS conversation, an a few other 'advertisements' on messageboards.

2) If the intent is for this 'rite' to be secret, why does it have a website? Why does it mention anything about itself? Why was it advertised? How would anyone know about it?

Doesn't make sense.



posted on Aug, 5 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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that site is about geo-caching. (treasure hunting via gps)

its a riddle.

the OMR and the GTO may have been treasure hunting groups amongst other things... and may have been into cryptology... if so its REALLY apropriate.

however there is some web data that supports history of the omr in richmond va....i find it comical that its "team gto"

same webdata on the history reveals that the GTO and the OMR were against each other.

hrmm? maybe its bunk.

if anyone wants to start a fraternal order for making the world better through secrets i love a good secret!

theres mason and theres mason.
theres freemason and theres freemason

theres people with wealth and power who do not want to lose either.
or share.

short term goal : breathe
long term goal: make them share.

k thz



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