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reply posted on 6-7-2006 @ 08:31 PM by cosmo dag
I'm new here,so I admit that I haven't been exposed to all of the partisan bickering. However, I don't believe that partisanship per se' belongs here. The problem is THE SYSTEM and the SHEEP who lazilly cling to their warm, fuzzy, Must-See-TV lifestyles...not just one party, one corporation, or one President. I have assumed from the very beginning that the government monitors this site and the people who use it. I think it takes balls to be a member here and possibly expose yourself to the scrutiny of The Powers That Be. I have always thought that the government would have people pose as members to monitor and spread dis-information. I have even considered the possibility that this site is being ran by THE MAN himself to keep a close eye on all of the unbelievers. I'm surprised that someone like The Troublshoota can even stomach coming to a site like this. To think it IMPOSSIBLE for the government to have played a part in any aspect of a 9/11 conspiracy is naive. The Romans burned Rome to have an excuse for conflict. I'm not saying I believe in a 9/11 conspiracy,and I'm not saying that I don't, I just believe that ANYTHING is possible when it comes to the people who are in power maintaining the status quo. It is our duty as citizens to question authority and to keep the goverment as honest as we can. It is our responsibility as human beings to not allow anyone to lead us collectively down the prim rose path to our velvet cages. I think that it's obvious that the people who are active here are more patriotic than the average Joe Sixpack. ( although Joe Sixpack is what they want!!).I wonder if anyone at the CIA,or the FBI,or The Department of Homeland Security is enlightened enough to even consider THAT. Oh yeah, 86 the political partisanship...this isn't the place for it.


reply posted on 6-7-2006 @ 11:51 PM by ceci2006
I like politics and love talking about it. What I do hate is when it descends into bickering. I am not immune to it. And I feel bad when I am drawn into bickering. I want the bickering to stop.

But I would like, on PTS as well as ATS, for anyone at least to be allowed to make any views known without being branded with insults or being tagged with "behavioral issues" because of what has been said.

We should be allowed to say what we feel as long as it complies with the T & C guidelines. And no one should prevent us from saying it.

Why can't people take comments the way they are, think about them and answer them intelligently?

And why can't people ask questions without them being branded as an "agenda"?

(Knowing what happened concerning my comments on a previous BBQ thread that I won't name, I'll say only this)

Because of the comments and questions above, I will not be dragged into being blamed for a "vendetta" or "describing a certain thread". I am not blaming certain members. And I am certainly not carrying any inherent negative attitudes. And I am certainly not making this issue about me. And this is certainly not an agenda. And Hell No, this is not about race. So don't go there. And this time on this thread out of respect to the Three Amigos, I will not entertain anyone trying to make it so, including those who did it the last time.

I am speaking about this in a general sense.

And if you do, I won't answer you. And I won't "respectfully" wait until the mods or the staff respond again.

And I hope to see the ATS logo turned up again.

Sorry for the anger of this rant. But I that's how I feel at this time. And I will still continue my love of debating politics regardless. And despite how others may feel about me or my comments on these boards, I still carry a deep and abiding respect for what they say and will continue to try to answer them as diligently and persuasively as possible.

Take care,

Ceci














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reply posted on 7-7-2006 @ 04:46 AM by ceci2006
dg,

I want this to be the same way. I am sorry for the furiousness of my tone in the previous post. I even questioned whether I wanted to be that mean in a post because usually I'm easy going. But it needed to be said.

I would like debate and spirited conversations to be treated just as they are. Nothing more. I have grown weary of witnessing other posters being humilated in degrading ways. And I am also tired of the more sensitive and thoughtful posters of being ridiculed just because of their compassion. This is not a new issue. This is an issue I have advocated for a long time now.

I have also advocated that these debates and discussions on threads to be learning experiences. Not thinly veiled attempts to attack a dignitary, issue or belief. I like to learn from the threads I participate in. And I enjoy it the most when there are people who take the time to teach and explain issues instead of others simply cutting another off because "it isn't intellectual" or that "it is idiotic".

It isn't wrong to seek the truth through asking questions. And it isn't wrong to post information if it sheds light on a given topic.

I am always for people stretching their minds more and thinking outside the box. And that means that people should be able to take whatever stand they like. They should also take the "controversial" as well as the "accepted" in the same way when cordially dealing with others.

No one, whether they are American or not, should not have to feel they are "treasonous" with subject matter about the United States when discussing politics or conspiracy. They should be able to express themselves and entertain questions when they are asked.

And we, as Americans, should realize that we are part of larger world stage. It would benefit us to hear what members from other countries have to say about their nations. And everyone ought to have an healthy interest in what's happening in other parts of the world. It makes us better people on an international stance. Here too, I thank our ATS members from other countries. Their insights have broadened my world view considerably.

But ultimately, I am tired of bickering with people. I don't like the way I feel when I bicker, because a conversation about any fascinating issue should not have to make you feel horrible when you walk away. It should be positive, entertaining and enlightening.

This is as "kumbaya" as I get, but I would certainly hope that in the midst of much-needed conversations--whether conspiratorial or political--people will most definitely try to be polite and kind to each other. That's all. I will try to do my part.

Hugs (or virtual ones) would most certainly help, though.

Btw, this is the post I should have made opposed to the one above. However, I still advocate both.

Take care,

Ceci





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