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US Female Soldiers Dehydrated or Raped !

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posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by mr conspiracy


Professor Marjorie Cohn broke this story to the world. She teaches Law at Thomas Jefferson School.

Actually this is quite serious.

A top US military commander has admitted that US marines in Iraq were so sexually frustrated that after 4 long years, they couldn't control themselves, and these boys went ahead and raped their own female soldiers. these rapes occured during the night. The women soldiers were so terrified that they would not go for a leak after dark.

No one has so far been arrested for raping US females soilders.

Some of these marines have been arrested and charged with raping Iraqi girls. Some troops dont like Arab women and so they went for caucasians types. It appears that some marines were only into uniforms.

In a testimony in New York, Col. Janis Karpinski accused Gen. Sanchez of trying to cover up the rapes by his men of US female troops.


www.truthout.org...

www.sexualassault.army.mil...






Where is the outrage over this !?

I am outraged there is no outrage... only excuses




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[edit on 4/7/2006 by Mirthful Me]




posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Communication_Burger Would you call me a Racist if I called you a Yank?


You know I actually had someone tell me that. I thought well if it is a derogatory term then why does New York have a team called the 'Yankees?" Oh wait you said Yank.....hmmm....being from the south that has a whole different meaning when coming from a foreigner.


"Life is like a box of chocolates"



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:07 AM
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Ivanova

Think it's possible for you to answer at least one question? Or are you so blinded by your agenda that you can't use logic or reason to come up with an answer?

Is it possible to die of dehydration if you don't drink any water for half a day?



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by WithoutEqual
Ivanova

Think it's possible for you to answer at least one question?




I just love your signature.........I read it right after writing this and I about peed!

Thread

PS

Its been a while since I did one, so I will give you a 'way above' vote.

[edit on 4-7-2006 by edsinger]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by WithoutEqual

Ivanova

Think it's possible for you to answer at least one question? Or are you so blinded by your agenda that you can't use logic or reason to come up with an answer?

Is it possible to die of dehydration if you don't drink any water for half a day?





No one is saying this all happened in one day.

Again, where is the outrage ?

All I see are excuses

pitiful



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posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger
You know I actually had someone tell me that. I thought well if it is a derogatory term then why does New York have a team called the 'Yankees?" Oh wait you said Yank.....


'Boom Boom...'


Originally posted by edsinger
hmmm....being from the south that has a whole different meaning when coming from a foreigner.


Who else is it going to come from?


Originally posted by edsinger
"Life is like a box of chocolates"


Is that a threat? You have missed my whole point, regardless; Americans are not a race.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:24 AM
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No I didnt miss your point at all. You seemed to miss mine.

Yankees and Southerners -- look alike, yet are different--- no race involved, its cultural in nature.


humor at at least a small attempt at it...my bad...



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by edsinger
No I didnt miss your point at all. You seemed to miss mine.

Yankees and Southerners -- look alike, yet are different--- no race involved, its cultural in nature.


Where I come from, every American is a Yank. You call us Limeys, I think. I don't think either terms are intended as actual insults.

You agree with me that neither are Racial insults, right?



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posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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Back to the topic, I do hope that the United States Military see's the light of day and finds the alleged rapists and then tries them, locks them up and gives them 30 years at hard labor.



Or just saves us the money and shoots them.

So much easier to deal with someone who has encoded their life to crimnal acts if they get a bullet in the brain pan, reduces crime too!



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Communication_Burger

You agree with me that neither are Racial insults, right?


Oh 100%, Just a canucks and cajuns would not be. Being from the south there is another name for a cajun, but I can not post it here as some would not understand it. They call themselves that all the time and yet to an outsider it seems bad.








Originally posted by 2stepsfromtop
Back to the topic, I do hope that the United States Military see's the light of day and finds the alleged rapists and then tries them, locks them up and gives them 30 years at hard labor.



Or just saves us the money and shoots them.

So much easier to deal with someone who has encoded their life to crimnal acts if they get a bullet in the brain pan, reduces crime too!


Agreed.....



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:16 PM
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This is horrable how can our country do this. Acually one of my friend said that there try get there older sis out cause she said that she was raped. This is *SNIPup it. I thought it was only her but there other to and there trying to cover it up and the fact in we can't let this go on. I'm trying to find other soucers (typo) to see if this is true if I worry for some of my friend over there.


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[edit on 4/7/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by El Che
This is horrable how can our country do this. Acually one of my friend said that there try get there older sis out cause she said that she was raped. This is F*** up it. I thought it was only her but there other to and there trying to cover it up and the fact in we can't let this go on. I'm trying to find other soucers (typo) to see if this is true if I worry for some of my friend over there.


[edit on 4-7-2006 by El Che]


Its not like the country is allowing this to happen, but, well, rape happens.

Your in an army full of 20 something kids, all testosteroned up. They aren't the brightest of people, and majority wise, are coming from troubled homes and areas in towns.

They're running around, killing people, shooting people, getting shot at, and all of that combined, well, it makes it alittle easier.

And besides, how do you expect the officials to catch them? What did he look like? Well, he had a uniform on, and a helmet.. hmm.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by WithoutEqual
Is it possible to die of dehydration if you don't drink any water for half a day?



Do even the slightest amount of research into what it takes to keep a soldier hydrated in extreme desert conditions - it is a staggering amount of water - especially under combat conditions. Dehydration is a major concern for all soldiers, there are plenty of studies about it. I believe there are even some cases (rare but they happen) of young guys dying of dehydration during basic training.

If you don't stay hydrated continuously you cannot make up for it sufficiently by just drinking a huge amount sporadically either.

I really don't think you can take the dehydration issue to debunk this story. Death in one day from this pattern of behavior may not be a definate outcome, but doing it consistently for days would be a a real problem.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by WolfofWarand besides, how do you expect the officials to catch them? What did he look like? Well, he had a uniform on, and a helmet.. hmm.


yeah, I mean the Iraqis only had a few do it to the Kuwaitis right? No the American forces are not perfect, but as I have said before, a few bad apples do not an army make....



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:52 PM
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The military has always been a microcosm of society.

You'll always have your murderers, rapists, druggies, boozers, incompetents, the geeks, the gangsta's, the scammers, the thieves, etc.

When i was in Japan i never locked my vehicle or my house out in town, no need to, the Japanese wouldn't bother it. However on any US base, my car or my house (once i moved on base) was always locked.

I also don't drink late in the day, so i don't have to get up at night to use the porta-johns here. Nothing worse than stumbling around in the dark to find a stanky porta john just to take a pee. If i have to, that's what pee bottles (empty Gatorade or water bottles) are for. Females use'em as well.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop


skipppy skippy skipppy, down skip....
whats that skip?
ts tst sst stk
Ohh no, someone gave his own opinion?
tsk stk st kstkstk
and it doesnt suit your needs?

oooooooh skip!

Call me a racist, call me what ever you please!
Ive been to america, love the country love the people.
but ultimately,
americans love there guns.
americans love there big beafy cars
smut and snuff films are rife.
murders, robberies are rife.

too bad soo sad, skip.

How many OTHER members of this supposid GRAND coalition have committed these haneous crimes?
and in such numbers?

Canadians?
Japanes?
Australians?

far out,
The aussie ACCIDENTLY shot up a car that was speeding toward them , failing to stop.
They took the correct measure, shot it to hell, and are getting SOO MUCH AIR COVERAGE, so much slack.
Weve even been asked to PAY the family for hte members we killed.

That the worst extent for another coalition member
So YES SKIPPY
I SAY NO WONDER THIS HAPPENED.

IT HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS IN AMERICA where POLICE< FBI< and so forth run around the streets..
who's to stop them when THEY ARE THE LAW ENFORCERS?

dont like my comments, tough!


Sorry, but you have no clue whatsoever of American culture or regulations.

Porn on cable tv? I dont think so. Your standard cable TV channels might be a bit more lax, but actual hard core porn is a big no-no period, unless you rent the videos. Soft porn is available only on special pay channels.

In fact, In europe, I see far worse stuff on your standard TV channels. I see stuff that can be classified as hardcore. I see nudity and sex uncensored.

I do not see what owning large beefy cars has to do with soldiers in Iraq and their behavior.

And guns have little to do with this.

The rest of your post is laughable, so I wont really respond to it, other than to say you must watch alot of TV and believe everything you hear.

I won't call you a racist or a bigot. Just a very ignorant person who really doesn't have a clue here and believes anything that is said if it is bad.

By the way, Im living in Britian right now, and the violent assaults here and hooligan behavior is far worse than it was back home. Rape and murder may be higher in the states, but assaults and beatings are worse here. You don't need guns to have a violent nation. people will use whatever is available.

Ill leave you to your delusions, though, as they seem to make you quite happy and content. Who am I to shatter your illusions, after all?

Ignorance can be bliss and I understand your reluctance to deny it.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 01:00 PM
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Are you suggesting that female MARINES do not carry guns? Or is it that they are not smart enough to have armed latrine patrols? At the least I would imagine that they would have a community bucket. This story seems fishy. I know that women in the military get raped. I just doubt this story.

I'm retired Navy and from the female Marines I've known this would never happen, at least not more than once!



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by WithoutEqual

Is it possible to die of dehydration if you don't drink any water for half a day?



Actually, without saying the article is either real or not, in a hot desert you need to keep drinking continuously. Combined with heavy activity I can imagine you pass our quite quickly. I know cause I've been to deserts myself, and you are loosing water faster than most people understand.

I don't know if a healthy person ever died from lack of water, even in the desert, if it only lasted half a day but fainting would be very likely. If a person was already drinking insufficiently it could definately kill.





[edit on 4-7-2006 by reallynobody]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 01:21 PM
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They are trained to kill right? I can imagine it happening once in a camp, but if it happened multiple times ... and exactly how far from the sleeping quarters are the latrines?! Surely a raped woman would scream? And alert dozens of armed soldiers? Are the latrines situated kilometers away or something?

I dunno know about the story. But im sure soldiers have raped. They are afterall already trained to objectify fellow human beings and to not give a *SNIP* about their enemies feelings. Who they see as their enemy and what the objective is, is something they can decide for themselves.

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posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by reallynobody

They are trained to kill right? I can imagine it happening once in a camp, but if it happened multiple times ... and exactly how far from the sleeping quarters are the latrines?! Surely a raped woman would scream? And alert dozens of armed soldiers? Are the latrines situated kilometers away or something?

I dunno know about the story. But im sure soldiers have raped. They are afterall already trained to objectify fellow human beings and to not give a *SNIP* about their enemies feelings. Who they see as their enemy and what the objective is, is something they can decide for themselves.


The females get the same training that the males get. I don't see how this could happen twice, let alone multiple times.

[edit on 4/7/2006 by Mirthful Me]



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