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Originally posted by ShazamsChampion
Simple Make "palestine an actual country, cut off aid from the US and Isreal (thier largest funding source) and let them starve until they decide to be peaceful.
Since noe of thier "arab brothers" will lift a finger to help them the land'll be empty in 4-5 years.
Originally posted by zorgon
As to keeping turmoil in the region, that is most likely true in present day politics, but that is a RIGHT wing agenda not the underachiving LEFT
posted by Houtchens
SO executing them by firing squad is harsh, but lopping off the heads of three schoolgirls on their way to school isn't.
[Edited by Don W]
Dipping bullets in blood is harsh, but strapping a belt on to murder innocent bystanders isn't.
“ . . kidnaping and killing people on video because they are the wrong race, religion, or nationality or just because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't.
Furthermore, flying airplanes into building killing thousands of innocents is not harsh. Drawing a cartoon of Mohamad is harsh. I think I understand you perfectly.
G.Houtchens. armchair coach. amateur historian
Originally posted by Houtchens
SO executing them by firing squad is harsh
Originally posted by donwhite
If my side wins on Nov. 7, it will be a different world. And a far better one.
1: Let the Arabs out of the West Bank and Gaza, and let them go to live and start a life of prosperity and growth in a neighbouring country of their choice.
2: Allow any who deem it important enough in their lifes, to stay, and make them become CITIZENS of Israel. There, 'they can', partake as everyother citizen of Israel, Arabs and Jews alike, and start to Work and build a life in their new homeland.
3: Take the Eastern Borders of Israel to the Jordan and its done.
This could be accomplished in a few months.
posted by Shane
posted by Houtchens
So executing them by firing squad is harsh . . ? G. Houtchens [Edited by Don W]
In the Fuzzy New Speak Age of Political Correctness, Yes, that is Harsh. I can hear the Clamor of Bleeding Hearts already. But as a form of Punishment associated with a Capital Crime, Terrorism in this case, I find it acceptable and also quite scriptural. Likewise for Pedophiles, I think they deserve a similar fate as well. But it is harsh, and sometimes harsh is far more effective than "cuddling" the Convict and "understanding" the Crime. Eliminating them (Pedophiles and such) makes the problem Go Away. Fear of a Similar Fate keeps it away. Ciao Shane [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by Jeremiah25 what hope is there for real negotiation over a far more complex issue?
posted by zorgon
posted by Jeremiah25
(1) What hope is there for real negotiations over a far more complex issue?
Sadly this is true . . History shows this as far back as we keep records . . does that mean there is no hope for the human race? With all we have "learned" from History . . why does [peace with honor] keep eluding us . . can't just get along with each other? [Rodney King] (2) We value life so little we kill for a piece of land. I know this is a simplistic view. Increased (3) population plays a big role . . is there a solution to our mess or are we doomed to keep this fight going for years? (4) Maybe its time for another flood to clean up this mess. I have my seat booked on the next shuttle. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by Jeremiah25
For example, your first option assumes that Arab people will want to move out of the West Bank and Gaza and take up residence in neighbouring countries.
Similarly, your second point assumes that those who stay will want to become citizens of Israel and also that the Israeli Government will allow this.
“Why should I compromise?” a group will ask itself, “when God is on my side? I must be right, because my religious views are the correct ones and God thusly favours me above all others”.
If September 11th taught us anything, it is that it only takes a few individuals acting in the name of extremism to render compromise and negotiation obsolete.
I find it somewhat ironic that this thread is devoted to exploring ways in which sides in the Middle East conflict can work together to compromise and negotiate when we on this forum cannot seem to do so, bantering angry words at each other.
Originally posted by donwhite
(1) Does anyone think for one New York minute that if the Palestinians did not commit acts of violence there would even be talks about talks?
(2) Apparently newborns “bond” to the place of their birth. Like the Arctic tern, the longest migrating bird. It always returns to the place of its birth.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
Our oil problems will not be as harsh and Israel's economy will flourish even more if oil and other resources are easily attained and investments are not as risky due to outbreaks of terror and war.
Originally posted by Shane
Can I ask.
What about the Terrorists Harboured in the Civilian Population within the West Bank a Gaza and sponsered by the Nieghbouring Arab Nations? We just let them go?
A member of the World Council of Churches (WCC) Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel (EAPPI) has been attacked by a woman settler in the Tel Rumeida district of Hebron, 23rd June 2006.
In the region a scheme has been set up where Christian volunteers accompany children to school. Duduzile Masango, one South African ecumenical accompanier was attacked by an elderly settler woman, who pulled a towel tightly around her head
Reports also suggest that a soldier was also at the scene and did nothing to stop the attack.
Following the attacks, the police were notified, but Masango was told that her testimony was not trustworthy and was abruptly rejected.
posted by Shane
Can I ask.
What about the Terrorists Harbored by the Civilian Population within the West Bank and Gaza and sponsored by the Neighboring Arab Nations? We just let them go?
posted by ThePieMaN
There has not been one arrest or trial for war-crimes for any Israeli criminal ever. There are over 10,000 Palestinians sitting in Israeli jails. Israeli settlers attack Palestinians and even outsiders without any repercussions. Police and soldiers turn their heads.
In the Tel Rumeida district of Hebron, a scheme had been set up by the World Council of Churches where Christian volunteers accompany Arab children going to school. On 23rd June 2006, South African Duduzile Masango, was attacked by an elderly Israeli settlement woman, who pulled a towel tightly around her head. Source: Christiantoday.com [Edited by Don W]
Reports also said an IDF soldier was at the scene but did nothing to stop the attack. Following the attack, the police were notified, but Masango was told that her testimony was not trustworthy and it was arbitrarily rejected.
Israel has harbored or vouched for many various financial embezzlers, Stalinist war criminals and even murderers of American people. I think it would be a great show of humanitarianism to release the innocent Palestinian people and keep only the ones convicted of actually killing people. It would also free up a big burden on the Israeli citizens footing the bill. Pie [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by Byrd
Reminder: Please keep it civil, folks. It's starting to get way too personal in here. Attack the argument, not the IQ or integrity or knowledge of the other person.