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Russian Economist Predicted 9-11

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posted on Jul, 2 2006 @ 11:33 PM
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Consider the July 12, 2001, Page One report in Pravda – still considered the establishment voice of Russia's old guard communists who control the military and intelligence agencies.

The Pravda article was entitled "Will the Dollar and America Fall Down on August 19? That's the Opinion of Dr. Tatyana Koryagina, Who Very [accurately] predicted the August Default in 1998."


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Pravda also detailed its own interview with Dr. Koryagina.

Here is an excerpt:

Pravda: All the participants at the hearings stated that America is a huge financial pyramid which will crash soon. Still, it is hard to understand how this could happen in the first and richest country of the world – without a war, without missile or bomb strikes?

Koryagina: Besides bombs and missiles, there are other kinds of weaponry, much more destructive ones. ...

Pravda: Well, economic theory. But how it is possible for you to give an exact date [for the U.S. crash] – August 19 ?

Koryagina: The U.S. is engaged in a mortal economic game. The known history of civilization is merely the visible part of the iceberg. There is a shadow economy, shadow politics and also a shadow history, known to conspirologists. There are [unseen] forces acting in the world, unstoppable for [most powerful] countries and even continents.

Pravda: Just these forces intend to smash America on August 19 ?

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Pravda: Why 19 August, say, and not the 21st ?

Koryagina: Some fluctuation in this date is possible. Serious forces are acting against THOSE WHO ARE NOW PREPARING THE ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES [emphasis added]. August, with very high probability, will bring the financial catastrophe to the U.S. ... The last 10 days of August have especial importance from a religious-sensible point of view. "

www.newsmax.com...




Old News ?


You may have seen this article before...
but did you realize that Dr Koryagina
gave us the EXACT DATE ?!



August 19 was not the exact date, you say ?

The last 10 days of August were close
but no cigar, you say ?


Think again... but this time try to think like
a mystical Russian




Tsarist Russia used the Julian calendar.
The Bolsheviks changed the civil calendar
to the Western Gregorian - the one used
now in the West... however the Russian
Orthodox Church continued to use the
traditional Russian Julian calendar and
still does today.

The Russian Julian calendar is 13 days
behind the Western Gregorian calendar.

So, the last 10 days of August
on the Russian Orthodox religious calendar
would be September 3 to September 13 !

If you add 10 days to the specific date
given - August 19 - you get August 29,
August 29 on the Russian Julian calendar
is SEPTEMBER 11 !




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Ram

posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 07:16 AM
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Wohaa!!! Yes!! Bulls eye


This is great find - We have made a thread about this in Skunk Works..Forum

SkunkWorks
Please post anything you find there.. Would really apreciate it..

Good find



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Ram

Wohaa!!! Yes!! Bulls eye



Good find





You might be interested in this post too.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I'm new here - can one post the same post in more than one forum ?


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Ram

posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 07:50 AM
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Should be possible - yes.. If it's important i would agree with that.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 08:07 AM
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Did this guy Post more prediction?

If yes where if no why not?

And yeah i still dont know if i beleave him or not, there are 10000000 predictions made a day so thats allot in a year..well if a few of them turn out true ..well lucky him then


But if same person got more then 2 good....then its worth looking in.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 08:08 AM
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Hi Ivanova,
welcome to ATS ......Your posts are quite interesting.
Looking forward to reading many more.

Great find!

helen



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 08:31 AM
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I must say I'm confused as to what I'm meant to be impressed by


He suggested some unknown agents would attack the US economically (not physically) in the last half of August and:



...with very high probability, will bring the financial catastrophe to the U.S.

Whereas what happened was that in September some people flew passenger planes into to WTC and the Pentagon and there was no "financial catastrophe" at all. In fact the economy has grown steadily since the attacks.

The stuff about the dates is bunk. I have visited Russia 3 times in the last 5 years, and I can tell you for a fact that they work to the same calender as us in the West. When I arranged to see my Russian friend in August we both were talking about exactly the same month, so I didn't turn up 10 days late. The Church may well stick to Russian Julian system for it's religious calender, however this bloke was an economist not an Orthodox priest.

The fact that the US economy is a "house of cards" is hardly a unique thought and is the position of many left leaning economists. However it seems to have resisted collapse for quite a while now....

All in all, if this was a prediction is was a terrible one.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 08:48 AM
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Wat do you think happened to the Financial market after that?

Dollar droped relly hard and people were terriefied to go to work...you can easily say it was a financial crises for a few weeks.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Vitali
Wat do you think happened to the Financial market after that?



The attacks had a significant economic impact on the United States and world markets. The New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), the American Stock Exchange and NASDAQ did not open on September 11 and remained closed until September 17. NYSE facilities and remote data processing sites were not damaged by the attack, but member firms, customers and markets were unable to communicate due to major damage to the telephone exchange facility near the World Trade Center. When the stock markets reopened on September 17, 2001, after the longest closure since the Great Depression in 1929, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (“DJIA”) stock market index fell 684 points, or 7.1%, to 8920, its biggest-ever one-day point decline. By the end of the week, the DJIA had fallen 1369.7 points (14.3%), its largest one-week point drop in history. U.S. stocks lost $1.2 trillion in value for the week. As of 2005 Wall and Broad Streets near the New York Stock Exchange remain barricaded and guarded to prevent a physical attack upon the building.
Source.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 12:57 PM
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Well lets take a look at the predictions:



All the participants at the hearings stated that America is a huge financial pyramid which will crash soon

This was 5 years ago and still no collapse. Prediction: wrong



But how it is possible for you to give an exact date [for the U.S. crash] – August 19?

The attacks happened on September 11, not August 19. Prediction: wrong



The U.S. has been chosen as the object of financial attack because the financial center of the planet is located there.

It was clearly a physical attack and not a financial one. Prediction: wrong



The effect will be maximal. The strike waves of economic crisis will spread over the planet instantly

After short term jitters, both the world and US economies have grown strongly. The US stockmarket is higher than it was before 911. Prediction: wrong

The US has not had a financial collapse. If you want to see what that looks like check out Russia itself in 1998.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 06:38 PM
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Some posters here need to re-read my initial post



Ask yourself one question...

Why do Russians celebrate Christmas on January 7 ?

Because according to the Russian Julian CHURCH calendar,
which is 13 days behind the Gregorian, January 7 = December 25





As for further predictions...

Yes, Dr Koryagina did predict another blow to the US economy.
In 2001 she said oil prices would skyrocket... eventually going
as high as $100 - $120.

I don't have a link to this prediction.. I have it on audio tape.



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posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 06:47 PM
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It was clearly a physical attack and not a financial one. Prediction: wrong


Why do you think the WTC was a target in the first place? You are correct in that it was a physical attack, but targeted because it is the major hub for international commerce, and the physical attack resulted in untold financial repercussions:


Among the costs of the terrorist attack are the destroyed buildings and equipment, the lives of many workers, insurance claims, the crashed airplanes, emergency operations, delayed flights, and the ensuing court costs. Businesses across America shut down on Tuesday and businesses in New York may be shut down for much longer. The total financial cost of the terrorist attack may never be known.
Source.


As for the rest of your post, I agree with Ivanova, you need to re-read the original post on this thread.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by helen670

Hi Ivanova,

welcome to ATS ......Your posts are quite interesting.
Looking forward to reading many more.

Great find!

helen




Thanks Helen !

I am just now finding my way around here.
I found your message, but the system will
not let me respond until I have 20 posts ?


To give you a mystical Russian answer.

I am

юро́дивый


A fool for Christ !







[edit on 3-7-2006 by Ivanova]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 04:46 AM
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The guy predicted a financial attack which would cause the collapse of the US economy. If you look at the original source he is quite specific about that. There was no financial attack and the US economy is going strong.

The stuff about dates is just not true. Only the Russian Eastern Orthodox Church uses the old calender, and this is actually 13 days ahead of the Gregorian one that everyone else uses. That is why the Church observes Christmas on 7th January.

Everyone else in the country uses the Gregorian calender the same as in the West. When I celebrated New Years Eve a few years ago by dancing in Red Square it was on December 31st in Russia - the same December 31st as everywhere else in the world. When I eventually got up the next day it was Jan 1st in Russia and when I phoned my parents back in the UK it was Jan 1st there as well.

Anyway, stop and think about it for a moment. Even if, for some bizarre reason, Koryagina was using the Julian calender (and why would he?) that would mean when he said August 19th he was actually talking about August 6th in the US! His prediction would have been even further off.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
There was no financial attack and the US economy is going strong.


actually, the biggest financial attack in history was announced on sep 10th 2001 by donald rumsfeld when he said that 2.3 trillion dollars was missing and could not be accounted for and then he promised change!

www.cbsnews.com...

care to guess what happened to the money?



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Everyone
Anyway, stop and think about it for a moment. Even if, for some bizarre reason, Koryagina was using the Julian calender (and why would he?) that would mean when he said August 19th he was actually talking about August 6th in the US! His prediction would have been even further off.


If you look at the comparison between the date 911 and the corresponding date on the Julian calendar posted on this thread. You will see that the Gregorian date 11/09/2001 does indeed correspond to 29/08 in the Julian format.

If you don't want to look at that thread, here it is. Many thanks to Ram for constructing that comparison.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke


The stuff about dates is just not true. Only the Russian Eastern Orthodox Church uses the old calender, and this is actually 13 days ahead of the Gregorian one that everyone else uses. That is why the Church observes Christmas on 7th January.




If you will bother to actually READ my original post, I said the BOLSHEVIKS
changed the civil calendar to the Greogorian but the Russian Orthodox Church
kept the Julian calendar... which is 13 DAYS BEHIND !!... not ahead... BEHIND !!

September 11 (Gregorian) is August 29 ( Julian) = the feast day of the beheading
of John the Baptist. January 7 (Gregorian) is December 25 (Julian) = Christmas !!



HELLO ?!

Why do you suppose the good doctor mentioned the date has a RELIGIOUS meaning !!




Ram

posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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Ivanova - Do you happends to know something about thses numbers?

24
11

Do that number mean anything in russian...Church or in some other Ortodox connection?

Is there anything special with the numbers 24 11?
Is is spelled weird or does these numbers have any meaning in Russian..?


Does these number symbolise anything?
24
11

Im asking cause we would really like to know.. Cause i can't read russian...So i can't search in russian pages..

[edit on 4-7-2006 by Ram]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ram

Ivanova - Do you happends to know something about thses numbers?

24
11

Do that number mean anything in russian...Church or in some other Ortodox connection?

Is there anything special with the numbers 24 11?

Is is spelled weird or does these numbers have any meaning in Russian..?


Does these number symbolise anything?

24
11







11 / 24

St Xenia - Holy Fool of St Petersburg



A wandering stranger
on a foreign earth
ever sighing for
the heavenly homeland
thou wast known as a fool
by the senseless and unbelieving
but as most wise
and holy by the faithful
and wast crowned by God
with glory and honor.
O Xenia, manly in mind
and divinely wise.
Wherefore, we cry to thee.
Rejoice, for after earthly wandering
thou hast come to dwell
in the Father’s house.



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Ram

posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 12:29 PM
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allright - thank you..
Cause on every attack.. 911 411 77

24 11 - or 11 24

Is ecactly 13 days before or 13 after - in the Calendars i have made... And we just can't figure out what these numbers mean.

It is the Georgian Day - And Julian Day number... oh bugger..

Here is the calendars i have made that you can see... the 24 11 comes up on all of the attacks..
911 2001 - 24-11
77 2005 - 24-11
411 2004 - 24-11

I write 24 11 cause - i put the Georgian calendar days on top of the Julian Calendar...But it could be Julian on top of Georgian..

And please goto this page - and have a look at our investigation - we have come to 11 24.. page Skunks
we need all the help possible.

[edit on 4-7-2006 by Ram]



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