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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 01:53 PM by Nameless Hussy
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by JoshNorton
i am sorry to deceive you but my answer, would be A. 0
i know that as a freemason, you would like me to answered a leat B.
but hey... i guess i will never be a freemason like you, as i don't
worship any gods and freemasonry ask to at least beleive in god to be a
mason ( a god but who is exacly that god...Lucifer...)
I'm curious: if you're an atheist, why would you need to mention the above? I mean, as an atheist, why would you care if Masons worshipped Lucifer
or Yahweh or Zeus or Satan or Vishnu or Vulcan or Kali or Alf or whatever? I would think to an atheist it would all be so much nonsense anyway...
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 02:38 PM by NWO secret agenda
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seriously, think about it, if someone with power next to you, is worshiping
Lucifer or Satan or Allah or elohim ( '' Alf '' this one was funny  )
you are saying you wouldn't not care to at least know what is their
religion's influence on them.... so you will know if they would use their
powers against you, at least just to be sure it's ok, if my neighbor is
worshiping Lucifer, you bet i want to know
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 03:45 PM by Nameless Hussy
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"Using their powers against you..." As an atheist, do you even believe one can have "powers" with which to "use against you" in the first place?
Not only that, but if someone is worshipping Lucifer, then are you assuming the powers are inherently "evil" in some way? I only bring it up because
I think it's interesting how you claim to be an atheist, yet seem to have some deeply embedded [fundamentalist?] Christian beliefs...
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 03:54 PM by KSigMason
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We are taught to worship our own God in our own way. Plus, the Chivalric Orders of the York Rite are Christian based.
I hate to bust your bubble, but as we advance we're not coerced or influenced to worship another God.
The All-Seeing Eye is a symbol of God, Almighty God, the God of Abraham, the God of David, the God of Solomon. The Eye demonstrates that God is
always watching and present.
[edit on 9-2-2009 by KSigMason]
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 04:11 PM by interestedalways
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What if the all seeing eye was your own minds eye. What if we as individuals have the opportunity to see all with our own minds eye?
Isn't it often said that god is within?
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 04:38 PM by RuneSpider
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Originally posted by interestedalways
What if the all seeing eye was your own minds eye. What if we as individuals have the opportunity to see all with our own minds eye?
Isn't it often said that god is within?
It's a symbol. Symbols are generally open to interpretation and re imagination. Look at how many different interpretations the pentagram has.
If it has that meaning to you, then that's your interpretation of it.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 05:37 PM by applebiter
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Before Enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After Enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
The work of trying to understand it is the point. The eye over the pyramid is a great big dangling carrot, and you are supposed to build a ladder to
reach it. If you do try, then you will have created order out of chaos. It's a trick, and a good one. It isn't a deception. It isn't malevolent.
It's a deep meme that itself emerged from chaos and delivered itself to us humans. It points to a principle outside of direct human understanding
that informs and enlightens our species.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 07:19 PM by AugustusMasonicus
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
...so you will know if they would use their
powers against you...
What kind of powers, can you elaborate? Something like a sorcerer?
If so I think I may turn emsed1 into a newt....
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:49 PM by NWO secret agenda
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reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 i am sure you all understood hmmm, i mean political or business
''Powers'' why are you trying to derail my post... is it to avoid further
investigations
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 09:55 PM by RuneSpider
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I'm still trying to understand why you seem to be so interested in other people's business. You site political powers as an example, but then say
you'd by as curios about your neighbor as anyone else.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 10:11 PM by NWO secret agenda
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 why are you trying to derail my post... is it to avoid further
investigations
why don't you anwser my question RuneSpider
instead of wasting energy hmmm
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 10:27 PM by OmegaPoint
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I think it represents absolute objective awareness or the omniscience of God's light.
Within a Christian frame of reference, it would represent the capstone of the holy trinity.
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 10:35 PM by RuneSpider
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I'm not trying to derail: I'm asking a genuine question. Why do you want to know so much about everyone, and have all of their intentions clearly
marked about them?
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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 11:22 PM by surrealist1978
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It is a representation of the all-powerful God. The all-seeing eye watches and controls the universe...
AND WHOM MIGHT THEY BE?..................
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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 06:45 AM by AugustusMasonicus
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
i mean political or business
''Powers''
I see. You mean like when one of the officers of my lodge uses his business power and donates food from his restaurant to Meals on Wheels. Or maybe
you mean when another member of my lodge who runs the local lumber supply yard uses his power to donate wood to Habitats for Humanity.
We should all be so powerful.
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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 07:08 AM by letthereaderunderstand
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"It's the eye of the Needle Gary, and we must both pass through"---Spotsworth
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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 08:24 AM by NWO secret agenda
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reply posted on 10-2-2009 @ 11:17 AM by Nameless Hussy
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Originally posted by NWO secret agenda
why don't you anwser my question
Why don't you answer mine NWO Secret Agenda?
As an atheist, do you even believe one can have "powers" with which to "use against you" in the first place? Not only that, but if someone is
worshipping Lucifer, then are you assuming the powers are inherently "evil" in some way? You've stated you were referring to "political"
powers, but I have read and re-read your post, and it is not at all clear that's what you were talking about, and I have my doubts. As someone said,
why would you then care about who/what your neighbors are worshipping? It just doesn't add up...
And I apologize, it wasn't my intention to derail the thread, I was just genuinely curious. You stated you were an atheist, and I just found that odd
because your posts seemed to be dripping with all this underlying innuendo about the occult tendencies of Freemasons. I just wanted to know if you
thought it was nonsense, or evil, or if perhaps you hadn't really rooted out or examined your former (?) beliefs... or if perhaps you yourself had a
secret agenda? I think that has absolute bearing on the thread topic, because as someone said, the all seeing eye is a symbol and people will read
into it what they want, usually depending on their beliefs. So I was just curious...
But, to bring the thread back on topic, I read somewhere once that the pyramid symbolizes the body while seated in lotus position, and the capstone
would be your head, with the all-seeing eye symbolizing all that glandular goodness taking place at the center of the brain. In that spirit, behold,
the all-seeing eye:
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reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 05:17 PM by interestedalways
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I have also read that the eye is symbolic or often called Sirius.
I wonder if the pineal gland allows us to communicate with that star.
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